The holocaust absolutely facilitated the creation of Israel. The Balfour declaration and Theodor Herzl are necessary, but not sufficient. In the aftermath of WWII and the Shoah, there was a need for mass Jewish migration. Meanwhile, “good” countries like the US and UK had strict immigration policies explicitly to exclude Jews. A ship full of Jews fleeing the Nazis in '39 were rejected by the US, Canada, and the UK. Eventually they were returned to Germany. (the embarrassment of this episode is why countries are supposed to give shelter to anyone fleeing persecution until the matter is adjudicated) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis
And that’s the part of history that’s left out. Western Europe and N America were happy to resettle the Jews, anywhere else. Support of Israel by the West cannot be understood without acknowledging the massive amount of antisemitism in basically all of Western Civilization.
There was already hundred thousands of jews migrating to palestine to force a state before the holocust. Read about the Aliyahs. The zionists militaries also was created before the holocust. I don’t think that if the holocust didn’t happen that the colonization project would have failed
I believe the point they’re trying to make is that where the will to forge Israel came from the genocide of WWII, the idea for Israel and the Zionists pre-date WWII.
In 1917 belfour assured zionists that they will have their state. A state that couldn’t been build without ethenic cleansing. It makes zero sense to compared israel which are presecuting palestinians to trans people who are getting persecuted.
In 1917 there was no holocust. The zionism was always about supermacy
The holocaust absolutely facilitated the creation of Israel. The Balfour declaration and Theodor Herzl are necessary, but not sufficient. In the aftermath of WWII and the Shoah, there was a need for mass Jewish migration. Meanwhile, “good” countries like the US and UK had strict immigration policies explicitly to exclude Jews. A ship full of Jews fleeing the Nazis in '39 were rejected by the US, Canada, and the UK. Eventually they were returned to Germany. (the embarrassment of this episode is why countries are supposed to give shelter to anyone fleeing persecution until the matter is adjudicated) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MS_St._Louis
And that’s the part of history that’s left out. Western Europe and N America were happy to resettle the Jews, anywhere else. Support of Israel by the West cannot be understood without acknowledging the massive amount of antisemitism in basically all of Western Civilization.
There was already hundred thousands of jews migrating to palestine to force a state before the holocust. Read about the Aliyahs. The zionists militaries also was created before the holocust. I don’t think that if the holocust didn’t happen that the colonization project would have failed
what does the revolution have to do with Zionism? that’s not when the Zionist project started
Hitler’s genocide is not the reason why Israel was created. In the early 1900’s zionists already was working on forcing a state on the local people
There is zero similarity between the zionists and the presecuted trans people
again, what does any of that have to do with 1917? I’m confused
I believe the point they’re trying to make is that where the will to forge Israel came from the genocide of WWII, the idea for Israel and the Zionists pre-date WWII.
In 1917 belfour assured zionists that they will have their state. A state that couldn’t been build without ethenic cleansing. It makes zero sense to compared israel which are presecuting palestinians to trans people who are getting persecuted.
got it, I didn’t realize the Russian revolution and the Balfour declaration happened in the same year