The imaginary money you invested in gold is worthless if civilization collapsed, so it’s in the rich person’s interests to keep things going so they can pull that investment back.
It’s more likely we are heading to another US recession, hopefully not as bad as the 1930s
I’m sorry, what? Gold has value regardless of if there’s a government backing it or not. That’s the entire point of investing in it, as a buffer for when fiat loses its value.
The value of gold lies in the fact that other men may be disposed to work their ass off in order to have some shiny things to gift to women in order to have sex. As you can imagine, the power of gold amongst married couples drastically decreases.
Besides this… History shows humans always gave value to gold. For some reason we got very used into associating gold with value. As such, it is probably something good to have if economy collapses. But it doesn’t really matter if society collapsed.
Gold is supposed to represent something finite that’s hard to dig out of the ground. It’s like the antithesis of fiat currency that way. i think of it like a hedge against the dollar like with some cryptos. That said I only think US civilization would collapse while the rest of the world moves on or divvies up its corpse.
That is valid for many other resources: iron, silicon, carbon, carrots whatever.
Gold has always been attributed some special value, throughout history. That is ok.
I don’t think US civilization is going to collapse, why would you think that?
The very article linked to this post talks about civilizational collapse of the US similar to the Roman republic.
Turchin doesn’t track gold but he does track political and societal instability. He believes America has entered what he calls a “revolutionary situation,” where long-running systemic stress can no longer be contained. “It’s not a prophecy,” he said. “It’s modeling feedback loops that repeat with alarming regularity.”
Jup, many drugs have a market price similar to gold, so better invest into that, they can always be sold…
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That’s the general idea, yeah. But gold investments are just a kind of construct where you legally own a certain amount of gold. Wether anyone respects your right of ownership when civilization collapses… we’ll see about that.
It’s more for when things have settled down a bit. Imagine you’re leading a group of people who secured a good territory and you’re growing more potatoes than you need. You may want jewelry made of gold to show how powerful and prosperous you are, both to your followers and to those outside. And you can give gold to particularily important followers, and to other leaders, in a very public ceremony, to show everyone that those leaders are beneath you.
I think people forget that gold is incredibly useful especially as a conductor. It’s not just for making pretty rings, our modern world as we know it would not exist without gold!
What uses gold when you’re buying/selling potatoes, nobody will think gold is worth anything if society has collapsed it’s just a useless hunk of metal
He means regular money would be worthless as well as stocks and such. And as rich people own gold, but own much more of the other, he argues they would like to avoid collapse.
However, I don’t think they really can. Also, if it comes to recession very rich people tend to profit.
The imaginary money you invested in gold is worthless if civilization collapsed, so it’s in the rich person’s interests to keep things going so they can pull that investment back.
It’s more likely we are heading to another US recession, hopefully not as bad as the 1930s
I’m sorry, what? Gold has value regardless of if there’s a government backing it or not. That’s the entire point of investing in it, as a buffer for when fiat loses its value.
No it doesn’t. Not anymore.
Not beyond its industrial uses, at least.
The value of gold lies in the fact that other men may be disposed to work their ass off in order to have some shiny things to gift to women in order to have sex. As you can imagine, the power of gold amongst married couples drastically decreases.
Besides this… History shows humans always gave value to gold. For some reason we got very used into associating gold with value. As such, it is probably something good to have if economy collapses. But it doesn’t really matter if society collapsed.
Gold is supposed to represent something finite that’s hard to dig out of the ground. It’s like the antithesis of fiat currency that way. i think of it like a hedge against the dollar like with some cryptos. That said I only think US civilization would collapse while the rest of the world moves on or divvies up its corpse.
That is valid for many other resources: iron, silicon, carbon, carrots whatever. Gold has always been attributed some special value, throughout history. That is ok. I don’t think US civilization is going to collapse, why would you think that?
The very article linked to this post talks about civilizational collapse of the US similar to the Roman republic.
Jup, many drugs have a market price similar to gold, so better invest into that, they can always be sold…
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That’s the general idea, yeah. But gold investments are just a kind of construct where you legally own a certain amount of gold. Wether anyone respects your right of ownership when civilization collapses… we’ll see about that.
Brb buying bulits and grain
Now this guy has a much better idea of what’s going on.
The rest of you are kinda stupid and that also explains why you just try to fit in with the crowd.
What value? Can’t eat it, makes shitty tools. It’s shiny, but I’m not going to trade ny potatoes for shiny in a survival situation.
You can starve sitting on a pile of gold.
For gold to be valuable you still need social stability.
It’s more for when things have settled down a bit. Imagine you’re leading a group of people who secured a good territory and you’re growing more potatoes than you need. You may want jewelry made of gold to show how powerful and prosperous you are, both to your followers and to those outside. And you can give gold to particularily important followers, and to other leaders, in a very public ceremony, to show everyone that those leaders are beneath you.
Totally. I was more commenting on the theory of gold having this magical inherent objective value. Which it doesn’t, it’s a commodity like any other.
Honestly as a value store, land is probably better.
Bottle caps are where it’s at.
I don’t think you understand what value means, and that’s okay.
Seems like maybe you don’t
Value is what you can get for something. If you can’t trade it for something, with anyone, it has zero value.
A dollar has value because you can trade it for a potato. In an apocalypse, you cannot trade gold for a potato if nobody wants it.
Value is a subjective thing.
And people value gold because it’s rare and inert.
Lots of things are rare. Doesn’t mean I’ll give you my potatoes for em.
At best gold becomes something desirable once there’s enough security for me to value having pretty things.
Instructions heard: Invest in seed potoatos for the spring planting.
Like I said, you don’t understand value and that’s okay.
I’m going to ignore you now because you’re annoying me with your below-average intelligence.
these idiots will never get it gold is cool as hell im with you brother
Oh I get it. You’re also a coward.
That’s such a psychopathic response. It is not acceptable behavior, and you won’t win any arguments that way.
Projecting much?
I think people forget that gold is incredibly useful especially as a conductor. It’s not just for making pretty rings, our modern world as we know it would not exist without gold!
If that were true people would value me
What uses gold when you’re buying/selling potatoes, nobody will think gold is worth anything if society has collapsed it’s just a useless hunk of metal
It’s really sad seeing how collectively-stupid you people are.
I’m just glad I can see it for myself.
Lots of easy blocks tonight.
Why don’t you explain it then instead of just calling people stupid?
At least I can communicate with people without resorting to petty insults
But I like petty insults.
I’ll trade you your gold for my petty insults
Well now I’m not giving you my potatoes for your gold just out of spite.
Good idea
Yep! You can join them.
Don’t forget me dork
lol do you?
More than the average lemmyer, yeah.
X to doubt meme
He means regular money would be worthless as well as stocks and such. And as rich people own gold, but own much more of the other, he argues they would like to avoid collapse.
However, I don’t think they really can. Also, if it comes to recession very rich people tend to profit.