One is Michael Lyras, a 44-year-old American, who lives in Volusia County, near Orlando, in central Florida. Lyras studied addiction counseling in college but is currently disabled and receiving food stamps. He voted for Trump “all three times” but says he is upset with the way things are going: “I regret my last vote enormously,” he says.

“It was necessary to make changes, but not in this way, sacrificing our civil rights and liberties that are enshrined in our Constitution,” Lyras adds. “He [Trump] is turning this into a police state and he’s acting like an authoritarian. I didn’t vote for any of this”

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    "He [Trump] is turning this into a police state and he’s acting like an authoritarian. I didn’t vote for any of this”

    You did. He said this is what he would do. He says he wanted to do all this the first time he was elected and it was only his non-sycophantic cabinet members that held him back. You didn’t pay attention. You need to accept this and learn from it, because if it’s not already too late to vote again (and it might be), you will need to pay attention and be MUCH more discerning in the future.

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    Yes you did. This is who he said he would be. You just ignored everyone pointing that out because they were just some derogatory version of liberal to you. People who cared about things like rights, the Constitution, the corruption of the Checks And Balances in our government. But let’s face it, the real reason you care at all is because it’s finally affecting you personally. Your government handouts are on the ropes. Your medicare, medical costs, and food supplies are all hurting you and going to get worse. This would all be fine if people were just being tossed into the backs of unmarked vans by masked “officers”, protesters seeking equal rights were shot at and firehosed, and forests were clearcut for timber, coal, and oil platforms. But now it’s making difficulty for you personally, so you care.

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    These morons are so insufferable that they bitch and moan even when they win. There is literally no pleasing them.

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    “The old rapist who I voted for in 2016 was different to this old tyrannical rapist I just voted for. I was ok with him raping children but now he’s raping my land and I’ve got the sad ☹️”

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    My deeply republican town just voted in all democrats into position of power tonight. Looks like a lot of other places in my state had the same happen. I’m feeling hope for the first time in years.

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    “It was necessary to make changes, but not in this way, sacrificing our civil rights and liberties that are enshrined in our Constitution,”

    Oh now he’s concerned about civil rights, now that he’s gonna be losing some weight. Yeah OK bud.

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      Trump: “I’ll be a dictator on day one”

      Trump voters, a year later: Won’t somebody think of the Constitution!

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      This is just another idiot who doesn’t realize they’re on our side. The country is desperate for progressives, decades of the uniparty convinced most people they don’t exist

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        … they’re literally too stupid and un self aware to effectively be on anyone’s ‘side’.

        This is is the kind of absolute moron ‘median voter’ that the Dems claim they are trying to appeal to, and they claim their method of being appealing to this person is to workshop and focus group develop a perflectly bland, near meaningless corporate marketing campaign that is so very obviously inauthentic.

        Spoiler: You don’t effectively message/market to inconsistent idiots with fake intellectualism, you effectively message to them with consistent and easily digested messages that are spoken with genuine conviction, confidence, and a consistent style.

        As an example: Compare Mamdani’s campaign to Harris’.


        I am so very tried of pretending that the average adult American is not an actual fucking moron who reads and writes and thinks at a 5th to 6th grade level.

        They are.

        Don’t act like adult idiot children are even capable of having a consistent or coherent worldview that extends beyond their immediate day to day experience.

        They’re not, they run on vibes, they’re mostly concerned with being on the side of whatever seems to be popular right now, like middle school friend group dynamics, and they also have the ‘is this person lying to me’ assessment capabilities of a middle schooler who’s always on their phone in school.

        Democracy doesn’t work in a nation of uneducated and un/misinformed dolts.

        Nearly every prominent historical philosopher/pilitical theorist who ever argued for democracy would also tell you that there must be a significant and effective effort to ensure the masses are capable of critical thinking and are also reasonably well informed.


        … A h(y)uge reason that Trump and MAGA are even politically possible in the first place is that so many Americans are just objectively morons… and that is because the Republicans have been for at least 40 years, successfully corrupting and corroding public education.

        Why do they do this? Many reasons, but a big one is that morons are easier to lie to and trick, run confidence games on.

        What does a non profit do when it wants to try to raise support for a democratic society in an illiberal region?

        It funds universal schools and sports clubs, to establish a foundation of learning, curiosity, and in person community involvement.

        What do you do to destroy the fundamental basis for democracy?

        You ruin and gatekeep and exclusionarily containerize those things.

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          I don’t really disagree with what you’ve said. But they want shit like healthcare. Cheaper rent. Cheaper groceries. Better pay.

          And thank God, they don’t think it’s cool to starve people. There’s the real test… You can bamboozle them, but they’re generally not ok with taking food from poor people when the rubber meets the road. They’ve correctly attributed blame, even

          I don’t have a lot of respect for the average voter, but the real problem is a communication issue. They are on our side, they just don’t know it and their fuzzy brains are too filled with propaganda

          But it can be cut through with good messaging

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        That’s the thing. America’s majority “progressive” cohort are still a little right of centre by the standard of most other developed societies. But for many conservatives, I think “progressive” is synonymous with “the far-left” in their minds, when really it’s more just playing catch up with the world or trying to restore intended concepts of the US Constitution.

        Health, income protection, economic regulation, appropriately funded education, crisis/disaster/wellbeing support, etc. These are your “basics” by default. Common rights and protections for individuals. But if your country doesn’t have them, it would be seen as progress attaining them in the same way roads, voting, and sanitation were progress. It’s be foolish to stop evolving a society under the idea that there’s no benefit to new and proven advancements in society and culture. Your average American progressive just wants to roll that update in and get some nice new features and quality of living. When a conservative says “no!” they’re not realising they’re saying “yes” to continuing in their modern dark ages.

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          You’re not actually disagreeing with me

          We’re in a really, really bad spot. We’re regressing month over month

          Progressives, to us, means shit like feeding the hungry in one of the largest bread baskets of the world. That is a progressive position for us. Some would call it a radical position

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        This stupid-ass “both sides” bullshit is why we have Trump as president.

        This guy is not a “progressive” you fucking moron.

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          I have had several Trump voting friends tell me they would have voted for Bernie Sanders instead if it was an option. I think we misunderstand at least some of those voters. If progress is not on the table some percentage of people will vote to burn it all down. It’s not the choice I would make but it is consistent in its own unique way.

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          No shit. But he promised change when the opposition insisted nothing was wrong

          Obviously he was lying, but he provided hope while the “adults in the room” promised nothing would change

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      America is now playing by Larry David’s show rules for Seinfeld:

      No hugging, no learning.

      Christ, we even have a soup SNAP Nazi…

      And of course Seinfeld and Kramer have now both already gone on their irl dark timeline character arcs.

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    “It was necessary to make changes, but not in this way, sacrificing our civil rights and liberties that are enshrined in our Constitution,”

    I’d be curious to know what changes he thinks were so necessary.

    I mean, yes, there’s a hardcore segment of racist authoritarians that are eager to bring back the worst aspects of the last several centuries. And there are people who watch fox news and see story after story about an invasion of immigrants murdering kids, eating pets, raping our horses and riding off on our women.

    But there’s also people who just think that Republicans will cut your taxes and improve the economy while Democrats will raise taxes and hurt the economy. And, God help us, there are people dumb enough to believe that Trump is a beacon of fucking integrity who has only had legal problems because the entire justice system was corrupted by the Biden crime family. More generally, there are people who recognize that Washington is a dumpster fire, and therefore will vote for whoever they perceive to be an outsider (even a current a former president). And then there are people who just vote based on how they feel things are going who literally couldn’t tell you what one candidate or the other is actually going to do (eggs are too expensive, I’m voting for the other guy).

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      It’s brainwashing, truly. Years and years of corporate money interests and think-tank arguments meant to distract, confuse, and correlate “them” with bad things and “us” with good things. They tried it on the left, too, with less success.

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      . . . Did you think America before Trump was not in need for radical change?

      The country has been a dumpster fire for decades now, change is needed because everyone except the riches quality of life is declining decade on decade.

      Even idiots can see that, they just don’t know the solution so voted for the first person to speak to them differently despite their lies.

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        Building is always harder than destroying, and takes longer. A lot of Biden’s policy (anyone remember the infrastructure bill? Student loan forgiveness?) was a turn in the right direction that really would have made a difference in a decade or so. But was there really a faster way? Was there an approach that could have withstood a toddler in the white house throwing tantrums and knocking things over?

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        I’m not saying changes aren’t needed. But anyone who is demanding change has some idea of what kind of change they want. Nuclear annihilation would be change, but they probably don’t support that.

        Even just the fact that they are upset is evidence that they wanted something more specific than just change. You can’t be disappointed without having some kind of expectations first.

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          What changes they want are to have enough money to survive and not be lower income like so many Republican voters are.

          That doesn’t mean they understand economics or social issues to correctly identify the cause.

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        Lazy buzzwords, typical.

        Republicans just gave tax cuts to billionaires while taking healthcare coverage from 17 million Americans. Democrats opposed that. BUT I GUESS THEY’RE EXACTLY THE SAME.

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          So you lack reading comprehension as there were zero buzzwords or mention of both sides being the same.