• aceshigh@lemmy.world
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      This is what makes him dangerous. He panders to people who make fun of the potus, but his belief system and policies are shit.

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      That’s his major value-add. With any luck he’ll sputter in the primary versus someone with actual charisma and decent ideas.

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        Assuming a fair primary and the DNC doesn’t put their thumb on the scale again

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          The corporate media is already hyping him a lot. Unless he has like a real plan to fix things and take ground from republicans like adding DC and PR as states or an amendment to replace congressional districts with party list proportional voting he’s more style than substance.

          Its not even clear he’d go as far as Joe Biden who campaigned taxing people making over 400k

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      Yeah he just needs to be careful, what Trump and Co were doing having discussions appoint U.S. policy/international relations with countries like Israel before taking office is a criminal offense. He needs to make sure he doesn’t say anything that could be misinterpreted as a representation of the U.S. because this administration is very much rules for thee, and not for me.

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        I assume you’re referring to the Logan Act:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

        The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953,) is a United States federal law that criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. It is intended to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the U.S. government’s position.[2]

        § 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

        Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

        This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

        In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp., 299 U.S. 304 (1936), Justice Sutherland, writing for the Court, observed,

        [T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate, but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation, the Senate cannot intrude; and Congress itself is powerless to invade it. As Marshall said in his great argument of March 7, 1800, in the House of Representatives, ‘The President is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.’

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          Exactly, and this administration will have no problem going after a possible future political opponent for an act that is to be frank, easily proven if he isn’t explicit in stating these are not the views of the U.S. and he can only hope they will be in the future

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            Yeah. Frankly, if I were Newsom, I probably wouldn’t do this. I suppose that it’s possible that he’s had serious legal analysis done taking the Logan Act into consideration, maybe even wants Trump to send the Justice Department after him, though I don’t think that it’s the tack I’d take. I think he’d do better to highlight unpopular failings in Trump’s policy and then say “if you elect me President, I will do differently”.

            I’m also not at all sure that the climate is what I’d bang on, as Newsom. Like, I think that most climate voters are probably already voting Democratic. I think that he’d do better to highlight areas in which Trump’s policies are causing a reduction in standard of living, where he’s got a better chance of picking up swing voters.

            That being said, he’s a professional politician, and I’m not, and he probably has a team of people picking apart polls and with a better political science background than me, so…shrugs

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    This man cannot be allowed anywhere near the White House. He is extremely unlikely to reverse many of the Trump administration’s worst policies. For example, he is unlikely to reverse Trump’s rules on trans/nonbinary passports and social security name changes. Newsom is going to take one look at the polls, see that trans people are unpopular, and that it’s politically advantageous to leave bigoted policies in place. He will be too much of a coward to risk headlines that say, “President Newsom endorses child sex changes with passport policy!!” Simply put, if he is the Democratic nominee, I will not be voting for president in 2028, consequences be damned.

    You can whine that “surely, he must be better on trans issues than Trump,” but there’s no evidence of that. He’s built in the same mold as some of the most vehement anti-trans bigots in the English speaking world, the current labor government in the UK. A Democrat can absolutely be just as bad for the trans community as a Republican can. The labor party proves this beyond a shadow of a doubt.

    You can complain, “well, surely, even if he’s bad on trans issues, then he’ll be better on other things.” But frankly, if the Dems follow the Republicans down the path of bigotry, this is no longer my country. If that comes to pass, I see no reason to participate in elections for a country I no longer consider my own and do not plan to remain in. For me and my community, an anti-trans Democrat is even worse than a Republican in office, as it will so completely shift the Overton window as to deny trans Americans their rights for decades to come.

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    If Newsom becomes president next, the US is officially doomed. It will prove that Americans have learned exactly nothing from recent history.

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      The US is currently under fascist rule, but a neolib president (which every Democrat one in my lifetime has been) is what would doom it?

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        It would mean that American voters are simply repeating the same cycle that brought them fascism, in the first place.

        If they manage to break that habit, I would say there’s hope. If they don’t…then there isn’t.

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          So let’s ultra fascist so we never leave fascism and thus will never have to turn fascist again? FUCKING BRILLIANT!!!

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            Neoliberalism is what leads to fascism. It’s where fascist go to hide, until fascism becomes fashionable again.

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            Voting for neoliberals brought us fascism. The slow and steady march to the right, that is enabled and often encouraged by neoliberal politics.

            Decades of catering to capitalists, who inevitably become oligarchs, who inevitably decide they want total control without restrictions, is what brought us fascism.