It absolutely is a bad thing. There’s a version of “post scarcity” where everyone is provided for and cared for, and there’s the one these assholes are aiming for, where most are left to languish. His is unquestionably the latter.
Y’know, you can also achieve post scarcity by reducing the demand. And you can reduce the demand by reducing the number of people whose needs are too inconvenient or expensive to be met.
He never implied or stated that a large populace would get to partake in this ketamine-induced fantasy land.
My point is that what he’s aiming for isn’t what you’re imagining or describing. He doesn’t want comfort or care for others, he wants to have as much money and power as he can possible claw in, and others having something means he has less to hoard.
In short, he’s lying and it’s important to understand that.
Then maybe OP should have written that instead of what they actually wrote.
Are we all supposed to share a mass delusion OP wrote something else?
Words mean things.
This is where we are at right now. Yes we do know Musk is a bad guy, but even bad people can say good things.
Having robots labor for us would be great, just because Musk said thay doesn’t make it evil. But because Musk said it we can infer he has some additional motives, but the statement itself is still a good thing
Like we don’t have to be this unnecessarily absolute and obtuse about things.
I already said that there’s an actual good version of post-scarcity, good try though. And letting wolves in sheep’s fur lead you into the slaughterhouse because they put up a sign that says “Utopia” is just going to doom you and everyone else.
I hate the loser as much as the next guy, but post scarcity built on automation and androids isn’t a bad thing just because he mentions it.
It absolutely is a bad thing. There’s a version of “post scarcity” where everyone is provided for and cared for, and there’s the one these assholes are aiming for, where most are left to languish. His is unquestionably the latter.
Languish is a strong word, post scarcity heavily implies most of our desires being met, not a minimum to survive.
It should still be the end goal in either case. Hopefully, we can have proper change before it to avoid some kind of techno feudalism.
Y’know, you can also achieve post scarcity by reducing the demand. And you can reduce the demand by reducing the number of people whose needs are too inconvenient or expensive to be met.
He never implied or stated that a large populace would get to partake in this ketamine-induced fantasy land.
My point is that what he’s aiming for isn’t what you’re imagining or describing. He doesn’t want comfort or care for others, he wants to have as much money and power as he can possible claw in, and others having something means he has less to hoard.
In short, he’s lying and it’s important to understand that.
Then maybe OP should have written that instead of what they actually wrote. Are we all supposed to share a mass delusion OP wrote something else? Words mean things.
oh looook, what a suprise, you’re a condescending, pompous asshole in every single comment.
wonder why someone wouldn’t respect you?
U mad, brah? Not our fault your fee-fees brittle & logic offends you.
It’s also not what this image is saying either.
Yes we know what Musk actually wants, but what’s being described in the image is quite nice
“The image about what the billionaire psycho is saying isn’t really about what the billionaire psycho is saying.”
That’s not how this works.
Musk: “Don’t kill puppies”
You: I’m going to kill so many fucking puppies
This is where we are at right now. Yes we do know Musk is a bad guy, but even bad people can say good things.
Having robots labor for us would be great, just because Musk said thay doesn’t make it evil. But because Musk said it we can infer he has some additional motives, but the statement itself is still a good thing
Like we don’t have to be this unnecessarily absolute and obtuse about things.
I already said that there’s an actual good version of post-scarcity, good try though. And letting wolves in sheep’s fur lead you into the slaughterhouse because they put up a sign that says “Utopia” is just going to doom you and everyone else.
Good try, but I don’t think I ever said blindly follow Musk. That’s an assumption you made
Why are we arguing?
No one’s trying anything but telling you to try logic. We may even agree that Musk is full of shit, but goddamn the failure at logic is cringe.
OP had plenty of opportunity to write exactly what they meant. Responding to the meaning of words is exactly how this works.
Rejecting an idea as stated because you don’t like the source is genetic fallacy. Basically
You know how moronic your comments look with this shit?
All we need is Musk to profess a love for Marxism-Leninism for tankies to swear off it on lemmy.
Hopefully we can have change so we get what he predicts and not what he wants.