Oh fuck off with that Kremlin propaganda of colour revolutions. Even if Gen Z protests has external influence, what is so bad about promoting democracy and end of government corruption? As bad as Western interference has been in the past, the colour revolutions tend to be influenced by soft power and no right wing elements. Would you call the French Revolution a colour revolution because it was influenced by the American revolution? Or the overthrow of Chinese Imperial dynasty by Sun Yat-sen because it was influenced by European liberalism? But I bet you aren’t saying anything about Russian-influenced far right movements because you’re a useful idiot for Kremlin!
Kremlin is trying to demonize the colour revolutions because it will undermine their own personal power. It was Putin who helped Lukashenko violently put down protests in Belarus and those in Kazakhstan. If democratic change happens in Russia and their satellite states, their own kleptocratic regimes will decline and their own hold to power. That’s why they demonize colour revolutions despite being organic. Autocratic governments and sock puppets like yourself do everything in their power to de-legitimise grassroots movements that undermine the ruling class’ hold to power.
And not every revolution you don’t like is CIA-coup. Oh right, nuance doesn’t exist with .ml. Of course it is in your interest and your pay masters to muddy the water. Again, even if there was external influence on colour revolutions, where is the indication that there is right wing authoritarian elements on these revolutions like before? Oh wait, for the typical tankies, the only legitimate form of revolutions is if it’s a violent one led by your OWN authoritarian and imperial ideals. As expected, you haven’t even called out the right wing movements funded by Kremlin.
The previous Nepali government, before being overthrown, literally stole tax payers money and flaunted their wealth and then tried to violently put down peaceful protestors, until people fought back and stormed the palace.
You are just anti-democratic. You will just call everything a CIA sponsored coup or colour revolutions except for the illiberal ones you personally approve of.
like last time in mexico, when it was actually conservative boomers.
Conservatives have been known to infiltrate and create chaos, and discredit actual protests like… check notes, everywhere…
kind of hard to believe “gen z” is toppling entire governments out of nowhere
They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Not the generation that wants to ride out a tide of depressive society, and say well, this is what is is, because the future looks so very dim right now.
without any discernible strategy or barely any news about it. no revolution worked like that.
That’s because sudden unpredictable outburst are harder to contain.
Haven’t you wanted to lash out to your government corruption? I hope it comes to a country near you.
If you look at “traditional” attempts at color revolution, most have failed miserably and the sponsors usually resorts to sending money and weapons by the shipload to the first wannabe dictator that showed up.
To me, these gen-z revolutions and protests looks more like corrupt regimes struggling as russian, american and other foreign money dries up. Sort of like a lite version of Syria some time ago.
not reasons (because we all have many reasons to revolt) but a clear strategy, demands or even much information
Such a typical Marxist Leninist bubble view if you are genuine. PLENTY of protests and revolts throughout history happened spontaneously at grassroots level. And the most common reason is being against government ineptitude and demanding to meet basic material needs of the public. The French Revolution, Singing revolution, the 1848 liberal revolution, Occupy Wall street, and even the Tea Party movement are ad hoc. If you actually read world history then you would not be such an antidemocratic simp.
People are in their own information bubble even before social media became a thing.
Marxist Leninists obsess over theory, but when they are challenged with empirical information, they will revert back to their script “just read theory bro!”
Buddy, you’re the one parroting authoritarian propaganda on a daily basis and so you’re the one carrying the socio-economic and cognitive consequences of that choice for the rest of your life. Nothing I say will disturb you as much as you already disturb yourself. So might as well enjoy yourintellectuall demise (I know I am) and entertain the rest of us while you’re at it.
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Oh fuck off with that Kremlin propaganda of colour revolutions. Even if Gen Z protests has external influence, what is so bad about promoting democracy and end of government corruption? As bad as Western interference has been in the past, the colour revolutions tend to be influenced by soft power and no right wing elements. Would you call the French Revolution a colour revolution because it was influenced by the American revolution? Or the overthrow of Chinese Imperial dynasty by Sun Yat-sen because it was influenced by European liberalism? But I bet you aren’t saying anything about Russian-influenced far right movements because you’re a useful idiot for Kremlin!
Kremlin is trying to demonize the colour revolutions because it will undermine their own personal power. It was Putin who helped Lukashenko violently put down protests in Belarus and those in Kazakhstan. If democratic change happens in Russia and their satellite states, their own kleptocratic regimes will decline and their own hold to power. That’s why they demonize colour revolutions despite being organic. Autocratic governments and sock puppets like yourself do everything in their power to de-legitimise grassroots movements that undermine the ruling class’ hold to power.
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And not every revolution you don’t like is CIA-coup. Oh right, nuance doesn’t exist with .ml. Of course it is in your interest and your pay masters to muddy the water. Again, even if there was external influence on colour revolutions, where is the indication that there is right wing authoritarian elements on these revolutions like before? Oh wait, for the typical tankies, the only legitimate form of revolutions is if it’s a violent one led by your OWN authoritarian and imperial ideals. As expected, you haven’t even called out the right wing movements funded by Kremlin.
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If you don’t know anything about what’s going on, what grounds are you basing these movements being suspicious off of?
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Boomers aren’t Gen Z.
The previous Nepali government, before being overthrown, literally stole tax payers money and flaunted their wealth and then tried to violently put down peaceful protestors, until people fought back and stormed the palace.
You are just anti-democratic. You will just call everything a CIA sponsored coup or colour revolutions except for the illiberal ones you personally approve of.
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“I am biased to look the other way.”
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“I will call out Western interference but I won’t call out Russia propping up illiberal regimes because I am in Kremlin’s pocket.”
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Looks like fed up population more than anything
Conservatives have been known to infiltrate and create chaos, and discredit actual protests like… check notes, everywhere…
They have nothing to lose and everything to gain. Not the generation that wants to ride out a tide of depressive society, and say well, this is what is is, because the future looks so very dim right now.
That’s because sudden unpredictable outburst are harder to contain.
Haven’t you wanted to lash out to your government corruption? I hope it comes to a country near you.
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If you look at “traditional” attempts at color revolution, most have failed miserably and the sponsors usually resorts to sending money and weapons by the shipload to the first wannabe dictator that showed up. To me, these gen-z revolutions and protests looks more like corrupt regimes struggling as russian, american and other foreign money dries up. Sort of like a lite version of Syria some time ago.
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The reasons are quite discernible.
The complete silence of the powwrs that be abput the whereabouts of the lost weapon “Pluton”?
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Such a typical Marxist Leninist bubble view if you are genuine. PLENTY of protests and revolts throughout history happened spontaneously at grassroots level. And the most common reason is being against government ineptitude and demanding to meet basic material needs of the public. The French Revolution, Singing revolution, the 1848 liberal revolution, Occupy Wall street, and even the Tea Party movement are ad hoc. If you actually read world history then you would not be such an antidemocratic simp.
what all theory, no praxis, no history does to a person you see all over lemmy…
the thinking becomes rigid and stale
People are in their own information bubble even before social media became a thing.
Marxist Leninists obsess over theory, but when they are challenged with empirical information, they will revert back to their script “just read theory bro!”
Stop consuming propaganda and start developing a capacity for critical thinking and you’ll see things differently, Mr. CoLOuR ReVoLUtiOnS
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Buddy, you’re the one parroting authoritarian propaganda on a daily basis and so you’re the one carrying the socio-economic and cognitive consequences of that choice for the rest of your life. Nothing I say will disturb you as much as you already disturb yourself. So might as well enjoy yourintellectuall demise (I know I am) and entertain the rest of us while you’re at it.
Now dance!