Please don’t tell me “see a therapist” I know that already.
Ask her what “value” is.
my rebuttal would be to cut her entirely out of my life.
“ok boomer”
There is no teaching those who have no interest in learning.
Why rebut it? You aren’t going to use logic to argue someone out of a position they didn’t use logic to get to. Especially someone that probably thinks you owe them your existence. You’ll never win that argument, don’t ask me how I know.
If you’re still living at home, make it priority to determine a way to make it on your own ASAP, or be prepared to eat shit until you figure that out.
You don’t need a therapist, she does. Sounds like she is suffering from EDD, aka Empathy Deficit Disorder. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-new-resilience/201004/are-you-suffering-from-empathy-deficit-disorder
This sounds like psychopathy (also a trait of borderline and narcissism, although there’s an argument to be made that psychopaths are distinct from those).
I wouldn’t expect a logic based rebuttal to work - all of these conditions are essentially emotional in nature, compensating for a negative past (shame) or compensating for a negative future (generalised anxiety).
This compensation is specifically grandiosity - a cognitive distortion to set themselves up as superior in their own minds, such that they no longer need to be ashamed or anxious.
Contempt is a manifestation of grandiosity, or more precisely a reaction to shame, transforming the realisation of their perceived inferiority in the past or future into the delusion of superiority.
Is their a field of study that focuses solely on the behavior, and the root cause, in the way your third and forth paragraphs does? Or, like, a flowchart of emotions and root causes? That was an interesting way to dissect why people might behave in that way.
Yes, psychology, specifically cluster b personality disorders - although it’s much more nuanced and complicated than what I’ve described, especially as conditions often transform and metastasize over time. For example, the borderline can take on a narcissistic persona when challenged and would be diagnosed as such in that self-state.
It’s quite difficult to find reliable sources of information online, as narcissism and psychopathy are popular subjects these days - ironically attracting narcissists and psychopaths to the production of content relating to it (for views or money).
Less curious about cluster b personality disorders, specifically, and more interested in the practical understanding that (in this case) sometimes, the reason behind someone not valuing another is really about them trying to protect themselves.
The connection between contempt, grandiosity, and shame; it makes sense intuitively, but it is interesting to spell it out that way.
What about other big emotions, how many others are really outputs of another?
“What the fuck is wrong with you??”
That’s some Little Red Book shit.
“Value” is always relative. And it has nothing to do with depression or other mental health issues. As long as someone still has potential to be productive, then there’s no exuse to say they don’t deserve to live. Actually, if you objectively don’t have potential to be productive, then you’re such an outlier that you deserve to be cared for by others anyway. Everyone deserves to live.
So how is value relative to time and circumstance?
I have depression and ADHD.
People who see my work-in-progress stuff usually say “wow, you’ve worked really hard on this stuff for such a long time, this is amazing, I hope you have good luck finishing this stuff and world will see how great it is.”
People who look at what I’ve finished usually say “you’re a lazy b and you’ve contributed basically nothing to the society. What have you done last few years, anyway? Unbelievable.”By the way? This isn’t exclusive to people with mental health things. Same thing happens to perfectly nominal people too. It doesn’t matter how close you’re to finishing some great work, someone’s out there about to pull the rug from under you because they think you’ve not done enough. People get routinely absolutely screwed over by middle managers with completely arbitrary productivity metrics.
Your mom’s a cunt.
Woah, hey now. I doubt she’s got the depth or the warmth to be called that!
Look her straight in the eye and say:
“You are embarrassing yourself.”
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Eureka! That explains the hundreds of thousands of suicides!
“I hung myself to get out of work, to sleep, perchance to dream…”
What’s her value?
She said suicide is stupidity.
Also if its a rich celebrity commiting suicide, she’d have this conspiracy theory of them actually getting secretly murdered by a mob hitjob. lmfao
Does she think David Carradine died from a Chinese ninja hit squad?
She thinks 張國榮 was actually thrown off the building by the 黑社會 (Mafia? Triads?)
(He leaped off the building as suicide after suffering from depression)
That value is subjective, and that it sounds like her thinking of it as an objective metric makes her a horrible person.
Also, obligatory aside, seeing as this is the internet: I didn’t fuck your mom. Nor would I; She seems awful.
Who defines “valueless”? In my opinion, anyone who says something like that has no value and so…
