Futurama may have gotten this “correct” in that the ship doesnt move in warp as much as it lets the universe move past it. The warping ships are held outside of spacetime, and “move” based on the shape of the bubble.
Maybe higher warp is just a more complex bubble that makes the ship more abstracted from spacetime.
That doesn’t fix anything. Physics doesn’t care if you’re the one moving or if you declare yourself to be still and the rest of the universe is moving.
“Held outside spacetime” also makes no sense at all in the context of relativity, but if they want that to be their sci-fi sauce then that’s fine.
I dont know why youre so set about fitting Star treks science into the framework of ours science. They either are insanely past our limited understanding of physics, or its absolute bullshit and cant be slotted together.
We see in TNG alone that warp bubbles exist and are generated by onboard ship components. We seem them move great distances inside them, and know they require intense power to maintain. It clearly works because we see it work.
But besides that, TNG has lots of other impossible “move fast” options. We know that there ways of travel that far exceed warp speed powered by “thoughts,” and not just one “thought” based hyperspeed either. You have the “traveler sparkly warp” and the “barkley think good” wavy warp, hell you even have gumtoos “spinny warp” that tossed the enterpise and romulan ship way past their top speeds.
Dont get me started on Q or tom paris hitting warp 10 to go “everywhere all at once.”
Futurama may have gotten this “correct” in that the ship doesnt move in warp as much as it lets the universe move past it. The warping ships are held outside of spacetime, and “move” based on the shape of the bubble.
Maybe higher warp is just a more complex bubble that makes the ship more abstracted from spacetime.
That doesn’t fix anything. Physics doesn’t care if you’re the one moving or if you declare yourself to be still and the rest of the universe is moving.
“Held outside spacetime” also makes no sense at all in the context of relativity, but if they want that to be their sci-fi sauce then that’s fine.
I dont know why youre so set about fitting Star treks science into the framework of ours science. They either are insanely past our limited understanding of physics, or its absolute bullshit and cant be slotted together.
We see in TNG alone that warp bubbles exist and are generated by onboard ship components. We seem them move great distances inside them, and know they require intense power to maintain. It clearly works because we see it work.
But besides that, TNG has lots of other impossible “move fast” options. We know that there ways of travel that far exceed warp speed powered by “thoughts,” and not just one “thought” based hyperspeed either. You have the “traveler sparkly warp” and the “barkley think good” wavy warp, hell you even have gumtoos “spinny warp” that tossed the enterpise and romulan ship way past their top speeds.
Dont get me started on Q or tom paris hitting warp 10 to go “everywhere all at once.”
It’s what OP’s meme is about 😉
Exactly. Well said.