Summary

Donald Trump plans to ban transgender individuals from military service shortly after his inauguration, reversing President Biden’s 2021 policy and expelling about 15,000 serving trans troops.

Critics, including advocacy groups and military experts, warn this move will exacerbate recruitment and retention challenges, harm unit cohesion, and create skill gaps amid existing shortfalls.

The order aligns with Trump’s broader anti-trans agenda, which includes banning gender-affirming care and restricting trans rights nationwide.

Legal challenges are anticipated as the military faces administrative and operational disruptions.

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      Seriously, pretty much all people I‘ve met who are offended by LGBTQ people have either suppressed desires or are really insecure about their own sexuality in some way.

      It’s like that Hungarian minister who constantly attacked gay people until he was found by police at an illegal gay orgy in Brussels (illegal since it was during Covid lockdowns).

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        Let’s not overshadow the fact that people DO hate us just because they need someone to hate, or because their religion says to, or because their politics says to. Trying to pretty it up or make it “less bad” because they’re all secretly gay doesn’t help.

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          I detest the “all homophobes are secretly gay” thing so much.

          What it’s saying, in effect, is that queer people are responsible for our own oppression. Because if every homophobe is secretly queer, then no straight person can ever be homophobic. If they were, they wouldn’t be straight, by definition.

          The only way that argument works is if we’re actually arguing that there is no such as being straight, and that everyone is at least 1% bisexual. There’s some basis for that, especially in studies of ancient cultures and uncontacted tribes. But until we start taking that seriously as an idea (and that is a very, very contentious idea to be taking seriously), this “Only queer people can be homophobic” nonsense has got to stop.

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            I don’t think anybody thinks that only queer folk can be homophobic, but it does happen quite often. Usually it’s the fault of heteronormative indoctrination, religious or otherwise (which is also usually the problem when straight folk are homophobic)

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        There’s also some women that were so traumatised by experience with men that they are afraid trans women will attack women, and creeps will claim they are trans to elude punishment. I think this is a real problem, but much rarer than it may seem, and it’s not a good enough reason to say that trans women don’t/shouldn’t exist. Maybe it’s because I’m too privileged to understand

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          Please provide a source to 1 instance in the history of the world where an abuser used cross-dressing as the primary way to gain access to his victims…we’ll wait.

          Yes, people are scared of this. But, only bc GOP leaders tell them to be. It’s a made up fear that cannot be legitimized like you are trying to do

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            I’m not trying to legitimise anything, but when I try to convince such people, I usually fail, that’s why I brought it up. Yes it’s weaponising fear and it’s the same irrational beliefs that make people racist or nazi, and a lot of other things, I think

            Regarding the sources, I think it’s stories like this or this that makes them worry, don’t know if sources are credible, first one looks pretty fake.

            nitpick

            besides, I didn’t say

            used cross-dressing as the primary way

            it can be opportunistic, not modus operandi, I only think that this is realistic because statistically speaking there are enough abusers on the planet so that at least some could try doing that

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    Private Bone Spurs is the Commander-in-Chief of the U.S. military for a second time now.

    And I guarantee you if you asked a lot of the older MAGA what they thought of Bill Clinton, “draft dodger” would come up eventually.

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    I got out in 2017 partially because I’m trans and Trump was coming into the oval office. He had made it clear that trans people would not be welcome in his military, and I wasn’t going to risk being discharged because of President Bone Spurs.

    The military held him off last time, but I’m not as hopeful this time. And I just wanted to throw out there: I personally believe the GOP is going to use federal funding to essentially strip LGBTQ+ people of their rights and healthcare access. It’s going to be the Minimum Federal Drinking Age Act of 1984 again, where the fed is gonna say, “Sure, you can offer gender affirming care in your state… If you do, you won’t have access to XYZ federal funding anymore.”

    And the states will let it happen.

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      For anyone with any doubt about OP’s comment, here’s the current landscape for specifically anti-trans bills:

      https://translegislation.com/

      668 bills considered just this year. 1200 in the past two years. 84 national bills proposed this year. Tell me any minority in the history of the earth that has had this much legislation levied against them.

      Next year the Republicans will be able to pass these bills carte blanche. It’s looking bleak out there y’all

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            I’m sorry to report, Ms. Bryant is not dead. She just hasn’t been very publicly active since the late 90s. Also, her granddaughter came out as gay and got married to her partner a few years ago. It’s a little harder to be publicly self-righteous when even your own family doesn’t conform to your beliefs.

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    They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays… they want anyone who isn’t a complaint WASP to be banished from society. They think they can do it all themselves. But they’re going to find out real quick that they can’t.

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      They want to deport the Mexicans, ban the Muslims, kick out the trans and (ultimately) the gays…

      It’s gonna be great watching centrists pretend that they didn’t just spend the election cycle moving to the right on immigration, supporting an ongoing genocide in Gaza, and parroting right wing hate against trans people in their own campaign ads.

      They think they can do it all themselves.

      If Democrats’ actions of the past months are anything to go on, Republicans won’t have to do it all themselves. They’ll have help from Democrats.

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      I still remember the labor shortage from all the deportations when they found out they need immigrants to do the work no one wants to do. They never seem to learn

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        Yeah, in the future when the economy is hurting from a lack of population growth, it will be because the white women aren’t popping out enough babies and definitely not because the Republican hate machine threw out or killed millions of people who were already contributing to society.

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    I just don’t get it. Trans people can pull a trigger as well as anyone else. This is just hatred.

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      This is just hatred

      Yes, this is indeed America.

      Every 2 years since Reagan, we get a vote for either Greed(D), or Greed+Hatred®.

      Greed+Hatred won this cycle. Not getting hatred as a result would be the confusing thing. A welcome confusing thing, but confusing nonetheless.

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      That would require that crowd to have a basic understanding of logic and reality, which they don’t. The GOP can literally do no wrong in their eyes because they will have some conspiracy to blame the consequences on instead.

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    Hey! Let’s send over 10k of the people we trained how to use weapons professionally home in a clearly discriminatory manner instead of letting them keep their jobs. That will do wonders for political stability.

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    I am curious when he is going to start placing them in concentration camps along with all the other people that have spoken out against the glorious leader.

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    This is less to do with the perceived quality of trans troops and more to do with making sure that the the current target of the boot doesn’t know how to fight back.

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    Hopefully the discharge is honorable and their service helps them get a good civilian job where they are happy and accepted

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      We’ll be lucky if they get a dishonorable discharge, because the way the GOP stands now… a firing squad isn’t out of the question.

      I am disgusted by the world.

      Fuck you Mace, Fuck you Elon, and FUCK YOU everyone who voted for Trump and signing my death warrant.

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          I feel like it’s not fair to have a vendetta against all Transpeople for that.

          I mean Elon said “The Woke Mind Virus took [her] from me! {She’s] my [daughter] damn it!”

          and I’m like “Are you sure it was the Woke Mob? Are you sure it wasn’t… you neglected and abused her, so she hates you?”

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    If you know anyone who is currently in the military, tell them they need to get their disability rating ASAP.

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        Yep! Told my family that once they strip me of my disability, I will be priced-out of society: I won’t be able to afford my house anymore, I won’t be able to afford my bills, and I will likely lose everything. And I’ll likely have nothing to live for.

        They tell me I’m overreacting and that there are “checks and balances” in place to prevent them from doing that stuff. I just point at Roe v Wade and they tend to change the subject.

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          The amount of gaslighting we’re experiencing for things that are already in motion is ridiculous. People would rather bury their heads in the sand than acknowledge reality