• saltesc@lemmy.world
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    14 hours ago

    I remember this being a big concern when LLMs came out. Having seen their performance since, there’s no way in hell you’d want AI handling your case. I wouldn’t be surprised if it became illegal.

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      LLM outputs have sources and those should always be verified by the human trying to shortcut using their brain amplifying their cognition or whatever synergetic turn of phrase is the current hotness

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      In a functioning country sure. In the US it is going to get the thumbs up from the Trump administration in a heartbeat.

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      14 hours ago

      LLMs might be useful for search and/or inspiration, but jesus, some of the idiots making headlines aren’t event checking the output they submit to the court.

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        It’s not even good for searches. It used to be solid for finding a starting point with research, but that has somehow gotten even worse. The summaries it provides are awful, it’s so incredibly inaccurate. Unfortunately the two biggest legal search engines lexisnexis and westlaw are shoving it down your throat whether you want it or not.

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      14 hours ago

      Its all trained on those garbage articles that are like “it depends” 1000 times.

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      7 hours ago

      its the same people who believed it can innovate better than scientist, or better at becoming doctors than actual ones.

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      14 hours ago

      As someone unfamiliar with “what lawyers actually do”, it does feel like a big part of what more junior Lawyers do (primarily on the research through older case law) could be major my helped by AI.

      Is there something I’m missing in that?

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        14 hours ago

        The technical part of lawyering is the least important part, most of the time. The most financially successful lawyers I know probably do get efficiency gains by having AI make up fake caselaw for them (and billing 8 hours for the research anyway).

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    11 hours ago

    It’s been a very long time since “I saw it on the internet so it must be true” was a novel joke.

    So then some tech bros wanted to create “AI” so they fed a language based machine learning model the entire fucking internet and anybody ever expected anything of value?

    It convincingly simulates a pedantic internet jackass with unlimited drugs and time on their hands. But that content is freely available at a slightly more human pace. Nobody is paying for more of it except the very same tech companies using every psychological trick in the book to drive engagement, even if it harms users.

    The stuff under the AI umbrella will be useful for some things, and probably pretty valuable in some industries. New tools often are. But propping up however many trillions or tens of trillions of perceived value in the economy?

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    They often keep it neutral and somewhat avoid each other so as not to appear improper. Been to social events, seen it. They have a professional, but adversarial, relationship.

    Pretend you’re a lawyer. You want a judge thinking you’re kissing his ass? LOL, that’s a career ending move until you move to another state or jurisdiction. Lawyers have to work with judges all the time and cannot risk even the slightest offense. Judges are way too proud to be bribed over a couple of games of golf.

    If that doesn’t sway you, what leverage would a lawyer have over a judge? Guess I’m saying there’s a power dynamic that goes against the lawyer.

    Note: I’m not talking about dirt bags like Alito and Thomas. I’d take 2 conservatives like the others over straight up bought and paid for assholes like those two.

    tl;dr: The attorney/judge relationship is nothing like the lobbyist/donor/politician relationship.

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      13 hours ago

      Where are you?

      I can tell you that there are Judges in California’s Workers’ Compensation Appeals Board who welcome ass-kissing & are easily bribed over far less than a couple golf games.

      tl;dr: The attorney/judge relationship can be like the lobbyist/donor/politician relationship.

      Also, Golfi is a robot that can golf with judges any day & any night.

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        NW Florida, which one would figure is corrupt as hell. LOL, there was one local attorney, supposedly buddies with judges, his main advertising thrust was that was wouldn’t represent drunk drivers. Went down for drunk driving.

        Sorta related, best judge and courtroom I’ve ever been in was here. Judge was a youngish Hispanic dude, prosecutor was a GenX man with long greasy hair and a sorry suit. Not only was the judge insanely fair to defendants, the prosecutor never turned around once. He had no idea what the people he was prosecuting looked like, and mostly recommended leniency.

        I know it’s not like that everywhere, not even county to county around here.

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    The judge is already golfing w a computer in his pocket who’s to say he’s not chatting up a sycophantic AI