For those not in the know:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

Very first words:

The Chinese room argument holds that a computer executing a program cannot have a mind, understanding, or consciousness,[a] regardless of how intelligently or human-like the program may make the computer behave.

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  • Grimy@lemmy.world
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    5 days ago

    You just have to type “what is a” before that and it pops up. I don’t think the llm is choosing not to show us what it is. If it actually did, it wouldn’t be as much of a Chinese room as we think, although I guess it could emulate deception just as well as anything else (as in the blackmail thing from a while back).

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        5 days ago

        Which is why its actually bullshit to call any of it AI because a fancy pattern recognition algorithm with a search index behind it doesnt mean Artificial intelligence.

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          Yup, I either call them LLMs or “AI” Marketing departments have utterly embraced it because everyone, myself included, thinks of science fiction AI and they are so not.

          A fun thing I’ve noticed is that for image gen ones, they threw in so much gundam and warhammer 40k art that getting things outside of those when you ask for a “mech” is surprisingly difficult.

          Its really surprising that Games Workshop hasnt done anything on that.

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    5 days ago

    As long as you accept that the understanding is embedded in the software, not in the computer.

    What a useless conclusion to take from a really insightful argument. Also, there’s nothing forcing AI to resemble the Chinese room, it’s a computer running it, not a look-up machine.