• bufalo1973@piefed.social
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    1 day ago

    So, by that same logic, any other country can, if it has the resources, kill him because reasons, right? If international rules are over…

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      I mean effectively that’s basically what they are calling for… Hell I think that’s half what they are hoping for… either another country makes an attempt to attack and we get to test out our detection and defenses before launching a sharp counter and claiming whatever country attacks as our own. Or everyone’s too afraid to, and then we leverage our position as the unstable psychopath bully that everyone just gives whatever it asks for in the hopes that they can avoid being the next bullying target.

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        Even the world vs the United States would be a bad idea. We’re geographically isolated from major military powers, and unless there is civil war and regional breakup (nowhere close to happening), the US is impossible to seriously threaten.

        It also doesn’t make sense for anybody to pick a fight with the US, as Trump is destroying both the American economy and global influence. Nobody can do more damage to America than Trump, so placating him in surface level ways while preparing a costly defensive strategy is the smart move.

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          The problem is what happens when surface level isn’t enough… IE with the Venezuela having happened, what’s the response to do for Canada and Greenland. When trump says “OK we’re taking these now, join us or we’ll take it by force”. How should the other nations respond?

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            They should already have stopped all trade and cooperation with us but they haven’t so that’s a good place to start.

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              18 hours ago

              I’d say to put in comparison… Canada and Greenland probably should view themselves as in the same position as Ukraine. The parallels are kind of scary there. IE they sure as hell are doing an impressive job of holding their ground against a much bigger army… but the death toll is horrific… and I can’t imagine the difficult decisions for everyone with regards to how dangerous it is to get involved. While both Putin and Trump are horrible actors… Trump I can’t help but get the feeling he doesn’t understand the concept of MAD, and actually would launch a nuke.

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                Trump is fundamentally different from Putin. Putin wants to restore the empire Russia lost with the collapse of the Soviet Union. Trump wants to bully and power trip, but doesn’t want an all out war. After he realized attacking Iran might lead to a more protracted war, he immediately tried to deescalate. Lucky for him Iran has big internal issues and didn’t really want more problems, but other targets might not back down so easily.

                This isn’t to say he won’t attack Greenland, but it is less likely than most of Latin American. If Europe doesn’t do anything meaningful to beef up their defenses, he might do it. However, he wouldn’t want a war of attrition against a modern military, but an overwhelming show of force with no clear goal beyond death an mayhem. His strategy is to beat smaller nations until they call him God and bend the knee. He’s a bully, not a conquer.

                What will be more scary is if he dies in the middle of escalating wars. JD Vance is a weakling who will easily fold to the rabid zealots who might actually want expensive conquest. They might suspend elections and start forever wars to keep power until they collapse under their own weight.