So, the shittiest computer brand is the one to chose the better road without AI?What’s next, Apple creating budget systems? Microsoft creating a privacy driven OS?
According to our IT department at work, a Mac is now on-par for price in the Q1 2026 numbers we have for our region with the Lenovos we have been getting and cheaper than comparable (hardware spec enterprise type) HP models, so kinda, yeah.
Currently it sounds like any member of our workforce that wants a Mac can get one now, where previously it was deemed cost-prohibitive and required an exception and approval.
Who knows if that will hold, though, those numbers might be based on Apple’s existing stock of RAM and subject to change when they need to re-up.
RAM prices for Apple were historically ultra expensive, already before the crisis they were charging 250 euro for 8gb.
Now it’s almost the normal price. (But still expensive)
Also, their RAM are embedded in the soc package, meaning they buy the raw dies, then package them in the same block, and have a very different contract directly from the chip manufacturer (they will buy n millions of chips over n years at this fixed price)
It’s not like normal PC manifacturers where they need to buy already made sticks at market price
It’s not like normal PC manifacturers where they need to buy already made sticks at market price
AFAIK, they also negotiate and buy product into the future. The only difference is the product is the stick, sent by the palette from the factory, instead of a spool of memory chips. Neither are paying the market price, they negotiate a price for delivery a year in advance.
In the K12 computer space I always found it was cheaper to buy Apple devices for my users. Both from the fact that those devices did actually have less problems and lasted longer and so required less human monetary investment, but also an actual cost perspective since a MacBook Air could be bought for $800 after education enterprise discounts. Which was a much better than most devices in that price range (this was like 2018).
And in a world where HP exists you say the shittiest computer brand with dell?? (I work in tech sales now and I always joke with first time customers that they have to tell me their brand preference first since everyone in IT has a preference of devices between Dell, HP and Lenovo.)
Statistically Dell performs far less than HP, while HP sucks and is full of bloatware. Apple may be reliable, but it’s only for people who are so dumb they can’t be entrudted with windows or for people who know basic coding+. But still a lot of their price is just brand, so bangs for bucks wise apple doesn’t suffice. Their own M chip is much better than the shit they delivered before though. They made a comeback. But for power users who aren’t specialized into graphics it’s not the best choice.
Fair note, Microsoft is fucking up Windows so hard right now, so I guess both are shit options OS wise. Google turned mega evil these days, so I guess Linux is the best option OS wise. But for hardware, I’d suggest building your own rig, or with the RAM prices these days, buying a secondhand DDR4 system.
I was a sysadmin, so my thoughts above were more from the enterprise deployment side of things. I tend to stay out of the recommending of tech hardware to people since they’re not likely going to put up with Linux, or even listen to me past the beginning explainer of how simple building your own machine is.
Their computers are shit but they at least have pretty good monitors, I am still rocking a 2021 S2722DGM because it was a very good VA panel for it’s time especially considering it’s BFI implementation is quite good.
I have three U2312Ms in my house. They’ve been my monitors for over a decade and they’ve held multiple roles. They used to be all on my desk but they’re now on three different setups and I’ve literally never had an issue with any of them.
Sure, the 2013 optiplexes are cheap and reliable, but that’s because they are overengeneered 3kg metal boxes. Once they break, you can’t get propriatery replacement parts anymore.
I bought an “IdeaPad” for someone and I have hated it. Shoddy reliability and just a hideous amount of glue in the way of repairs. Also had to get reasonable repair parts.
Thinkpad X and P series have continued to be good and easy to work on when needed, but my experiences with their budget lines has been terrible.
So, the shittiest computer brand is the one to chose the better road without AI?What’s next, Apple creating budget systems? Microsoft creating a privacy driven OS?
According to our IT department at work, a Mac is now on-par for price in the Q1 2026 numbers we have for our region with the Lenovos we have been getting and cheaper than comparable (hardware spec enterprise type) HP models, so kinda, yeah.
Currently it sounds like any member of our workforce that wants a Mac can get one now, where previously it was deemed cost-prohibitive and required an exception and approval.
Who knows if that will hold, though, those numbers might be based on Apple’s existing stock of RAM and subject to change when they need to re-up.
RAM prices for Apple were historically ultra expensive, already before the crisis they were charging 250 euro for 8gb.
Now it’s almost the normal price. (But still expensive)
Also, their RAM are embedded in the soc package, meaning they buy the raw dies, then package them in the same block, and have a very different contract directly from the chip manufacturer (they will buy n millions of chips over n years at this fixed price)
It’s not like normal PC manifacturers where they need to buy already made sticks at market price
AFAIK, they also negotiate and buy product into the future. The only difference is the product is the stick, sent by the palette from the factory, instead of a spool of memory chips. Neither are paying the market price, they negotiate a price for delivery a year in advance.
In the K12 computer space I always found it was cheaper to buy Apple devices for my users. Both from the fact that those devices did actually have less problems and lasted longer and so required less human monetary investment, but also an actual cost perspective since a MacBook Air could be bought for $800 after education enterprise discounts. Which was a much better than most devices in that price range (this was like 2018).
And in a world where HP exists you say the shittiest computer brand with dell?? (I work in tech sales now and I always joke with first time customers that they have to tell me their brand preference first since everyone in IT has a preference of devices between Dell, HP and Lenovo.)
Statistically Dell performs far less than HP, while HP sucks and is full of bloatware. Apple may be reliable, but it’s only for people who are so dumb they can’t be entrudted with windows or for people who know basic coding+. But still a lot of their price is just brand, so bangs for bucks wise apple doesn’t suffice. Their own M chip is much better than the shit they delivered before though. They made a comeback. But for power users who aren’t specialized into graphics it’s not the best choice.
Fair note, Microsoft is fucking up Windows so hard right now, so I guess both are shit options OS wise. Google turned mega evil these days, so I guess Linux is the best option OS wise. But for hardware, I’d suggest building your own rig, or with the RAM prices these days, buying a secondhand DDR4 system.
I was a sysadmin, so my thoughts above were more from the enterprise deployment side of things. I tend to stay out of the recommending of tech hardware to people since they’re not likely going to put up with Linux, or even listen to me past the beginning explainer of how simple building your own machine is.
Their computers are shit but they at least have pretty good monitors, I am still rocking a 2021 S2722DGM because it was a very good VA panel for it’s time especially considering it’s BFI implementation is quite good.
Dell monitors are unironically solid, same with Hewlett Packard. Don’t know why but even if their PCs are shit the monitor is usually solid.
I have three U2312Ms in my house. They’ve been my monitors for over a decade and they’ve held multiple roles. They used to be all on my desk but they’re now on three different setups and I’ve literally never had an issue with any of them.
They’re from 2011.
Why shittiest? The do pretty good pcs
They do not.
Sure, the 2013 optiplexes are cheap and reliable, but that’s because they are overengeneered 3kg metal boxes. Once they break, you can’t get propriatery replacement parts anymore.
Never seen a gamers nexus review of their systems?
Idk the laptop is pretty good for work and light gaming and battery life is really good on Linux, and price is fine… But haven’t seen any review.
Lenovo has entered the chat…
Lenovo actually has decent systems for a reasonable price.
If you stick to select Thinkpad lines…
I bought an “IdeaPad” for someone and I have hated it. Shoddy reliability and just a hideous amount of glue in the way of repairs. Also had to get reasonable repair parts.
Thinkpad X and P series have continued to be good and easy to work on when needed, but my experiences with their budget lines has been terrible.
Lenovo is so much better than anything dell ever made
Except the bargain bin ideapads