I don’t even know what else to add to this headline. This is so fucked up and tragic scary and infuriating and it will in no way slow the resistance.

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    That mother fucker WALKED over to the victims car, while putting his gun away! “Scared for his life”? “In the hospital recovering”?

    This stupid fucking “president” of ours has lost his fucking mind if he believes the shit coming from his mouth!

    He fucking knows that the stupid fuckers that follow him will eat this shit up and believe anything he says.

    GET THIS FUCKER OUT OF OFFICE!

    FUCK trump! FUCK ice! FUCK nazis!

    fuck…

    Edit: Bot?! Look at my profile, dickhead!

    Make fun of how I talk all you want. It was still murder.

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      A lot of people still think the mcdonalds hot covfefe lawsuit was bullshit. The first to speak wins, even if it’s a lie disproven later.

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      He doesn’t believe any of this shit, but he thinks his base is dumb enough to believe him; and he’s right about that.

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      No, he hasn’t lost his mind. This is what MAGA wants. They want revolts. They want a civil war. We’ll, they are just about to get one over this.

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        You mean like how what China really wanted during the Tiannamen Square massacre was revolts and civil war?

        The neoconfederates are already at the federal level, toppling the US constitution from the Executive and the Supreme branches of government, and two out of three is all that’s needed to subvert the last and weakest regardless of midterms, assuming they go to plan. Meanwhile people like you are thinking you are going to win by not fighting.

        The Trump administration doesn’t need to manufacture excuses, they make them up on the spot or wait for people to post-rationalize them - look at the Venezuelan invasion. What the administration is prodding for is the nail that sticks out so they can hammer it before it becomes a spiked club to get stricken by. The real problem isn’t revolts or fighting back against an unconstitutional federal government, the real problem is when they are singular and isolated due to attitudes that suppress them, and those attitudes are coming from both sides.

        The original US colonies reformed time and time again. The solidification into the indoctrination of an indivisible global power into the American psyche is an extension of the same sort of Manifest Destiny / Monroe Doctrine the US continues to extend today that serves the international corporations solidified into existence by the same Civil War.

        If you want to remain a single country, don’t expect the rest of the world to ever treat a nation the same again that on the flip of an administration burned all the bridges it took decades to build up through international cooperation and governance, at the very least not without the same sort of introspection Germany had to go through - something inconceivable to the American patriotic mindset. However, Nazi Germany needed to be defeated first. For Germany, was it better that there had to exist enough opposition to beat and subvert Nazi Germany, or would it have been better if the Nazi had been beaten internally by Germans themselves? The same is not going to happen for the US.

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          This is Trumps plan. He has been trying to find a sedition or act of rebellion since he took office. He needs to declare martial law to stop the 2026 election or he will be impeached.

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            He didn’t need a plan for January 6th. This isn’t a plan, this is an argument he will abuse to that end. Just because a dictator would twist an argument to his own ends does not stop making it a good argument.

            Trump has the executive branch, the most powerful branch of the government which he has already used to cause major staff turnover wherever he could.

            He has the judicial branch there to back them up.

            He might lose part of the legislative branch, the one in charge of legislation he is ignoring almost on a daily basis, whose impeachment process would take several months and would require the involvement of, you’ve guessed it, federal agencies.

            He can even handle losing one or two states by forcing martial law, which his ICE brown nosers are already acting like and being funded to the level off, as you say. I’ll quote myself again:

            The real problem isn’t revolts or fighting back against an unconstitutional federal government, the real problem is when they are singular and isolated due to attitudes that suppress them, and those attitudes are coming from both sides.

            You think this is Trump’s plan, and somehow think getting states to ignore the constitution and the system of law isn’t. ICE brown nosers are already acting like soldiers imposing their own martial law. Both are things he can exploit, and ironically enough he would have less of a hand in that of martial law since they would supersede ICE. Not that I have any hope of federal troops of doing the right thing, I just don’t see them as willing to do the wrong thing.

            But you can easily convince me that states shouldn’t rise up together against an unconstitutional and corrupt federal government. Tell me when in history a wannabe dictator has been stopped by following the proper process after they have subverted it to the degree while continually ignoring. Israel? Venezuela? Russia? The closest I can remember is South Korea’s Yoon - except that was possible due to their Constitutional Court not being subverted, their federal agencies not having been rolled over, and a national assembly that was able to impeach him, and even that had to make national headlines.

            By all means don’t rise up and fight by yourself, if that’s what you think I’m suggesting. The only way that will end up working is if it is coordinated across states. The fact is your system of government is already no longer functioning, whether you choose to act as if it is or not.

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        It’s good to always reserve some skepticism, but lots of people talk and write like this, my friend.

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        You’re lucky you’re on the internet or you’d figure out real fast how many real humans are in a rage about this. And you’re maga so you know nothing about normal people.

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        Lemmy is chock full of bots, but it’s also full of people who are democrats, liberals and leftists that will stop at nothing to harass people who share conservative ideas.

        Edit: The responses and DM’s after i made this comment prove my point.

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          Like what you and other conservatives on this platform do? Fuck right off to X or ‘Truth’ Social for the echo chamber you clearly seek.

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                It does cause you to confuse ‘conservative ideas’ with the alt-right fascist ideas of the MAGA movement.

                What the person was saying, before being dogpiled, is that there are people that will blindly attack and harass anyone who has any conservative ideas. That statement seems to be proven by the response.

                What they said is correct, Lemmy is a left-leaning space. Lemmy also has bots, because it is social media in 2026. The people who will stop at nothing to harass people who share conservative ideas also seem to be present given the 55 downvotes on a comment who’s only crime was expressing a different viewpoint.

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                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservatism

                    Conservatisim is an entire constellation of political, social and cultural customs. I’m not here to promote any of those ideas or get into slapfights about who is more moral than who.

                    The point I was making was that there are obviously people here who are willing to attack someone for even hinting that they may be conservative.

                    You can see that evidenced by the fact that a person made an objectively true statement, but it was framed in a way that could be read that they’re conservative and because of that they’re spammed with downvotes and accused of supporting child rapists.

                    That is just pure ignorance.

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                  There’s nothing more pathetic than people whining about fake internet points. I would go to conservative spaces to discuss issues they won’t allow it.

                  That dude hasn’t mention any “conservative idea”, he’s just here to play the victim and whine.

                  All while worshipping a child rapist.

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              I don’t think so. Serious answer.

              You lumped together democrats, liberals, and leftists. If you go look up the whole of humanity’s political spectrum, that coalition you mentioned would cover about 2/3 of it, while american conservatives are a little circle off to the right.

              I’m an American raised in a conservative catholic family in the 80s. I know that Lemmy feels like some kind of little leftist radicalization forum to somebody used to living in “real-ass non-coastal heartland America.” Like, for verification, ain’t nobody got time to watch all the games but I was watching the latter part of that Ravens@Steelers game and did you SEE that shit?

              But I also love learning about the world. There are SO many people out there doing things SO many different ways, that lots of really helpful and successful things get tried in the real world with real people. Like if you’ve ever seen one of my posts that mention the bathrooms in Sweden, it’s simple and genius.

              That doesn’t mean we change it tomorrow, it means it might be worth learning from and finding improvements. But that’s just one small example.

              Big picture, I think I can put the problem two ways:

              First is best practices. In past jobs where I was engineering support for manufacturing and operations, in that world terms like “benchmarking” and “continuous improvement” are commonplace. I don’t see the US doing that.

              Second, on the political spectrum of this place, I notice that the two groups that get shit on the most, tankies and republicans, are basically on opposite ends. I think authoritarians and fascists might just suck.

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          At least they aren’t shooting the conservatives in the head like conservatives do to the democrats, liberals, and leftists

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              You say this in the comments of a news article about someone with a pride flag in their social profile who was shot and killed. So it does kinda seem like people in the LGBT community do need to protect themselves, eh?

              It’s not a tricky nuance to understand that these people approve of individuals owning handguns but not automatic weapons. Kind of like how you likely approve of individuals owning automatic weapons but not nuclear weapons. It’s just a different threshold 🤷‍♀️

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          By “harass” you mean “respond to” after you voluntarily make a post in a public forum?

          I didn’t realize child rape and shooting innocent people the face were “conservative ideas”.

          Your “point” is that people are allowed to disagree with you.

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          Because all ideas that are strictly conservative are dogshit.

          Conservatives claim ideas and ideals of humanity that non conservatives practice, such as being frugal with finances and maintaining happy families, but they aren’t conservative ideas.

          At the moment, conservative ideals are shooting defenceless women in the face. Excuse me, but I will continue to remain hostile toward people who defend these grubs and vote for them. Subhuman, they are.

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          All conservatives are MAGAs, and all MAGAs are corrupt, traitors, racists, rapists, pedophiles, misogynists, ignorant, incompetent, and PEDOPHILES, all to a virtuosic degree.

          Those disgusting scum shouldn’t know a moment’s peace until they crawl back under their slimy rocks, and continue to fester and rot.

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            I have them labelled as Fascist Tory Scum, which means they are Canadian or British, and the postfix means I have seen them say things on the Fediverse that are vile even by demented rightist standards.

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              Yes, they are. If someone brands themselves conservative they have punched the MAGA ballot.

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              “I voted for Mr. Hitler because he’d be good for the economy, I didn’t go in for all that Jew-killing stuff. You can’t blame that on me.” – German citizen, 1946

              ALL Conservatives are MAGA.

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            Welp, if my ideas aren’t worth much than I suggest to everyone here to avoid major bridges in the Washington, Oregon, Vancouver/B.C, Alberta and Saskatchewan regions.

            Because let me assure you, I certainly had a hand in a lot of them.