• Flax@feddit.uk
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      2 days ago

      Depends how you define it. You’d have free will but the temptation to sin is gone. The temptation to sin comes from Satan.

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        That’s blame shifting. God as the creator of everything is responsible for everything. He could have created humanity in such a manner that they weren’t prone to sin. He could have created Satan in a manner that he wouldn’t fall and tempt people to sin.

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        This is not true according to the Bible.

        It says we are “born in sin” and unworthy of God, only by accepting baby Jesus do we become pure enough for God to tolerate us.

        Also, God created Satan, with full knowledge of what he would be, so even if you were right, God would be the source of Satan (and sin).

        “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” ~Isaiah 45:7

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          21 hours ago

          That’s the King James Version, an old translation, the meaning of “evil” has changed. A better translation of it would be “calamity” or “disaster” which God does do to punish sin.

          Sure, God had knowledge Satan would turn against Him, but you could also give birth to a child with knowledge that it’ll have a disability. That’s not the same as giving it a disability.

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            The King James version was good enough for God for millennia, so it’s good enough for me.

            You could say the “disaster/calamity” of the Great Flood (for example) is different from “evil” if you’d like. That amuses me, go on

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                Oh no I haven’t memorized the release date of one of the billions of books

                I’m so embarrassed!

                CORRECTION: The King James version was good enough for God for more than four hundred years, so it’s good enough for me.

                You should also give the year and month and day, but I don’t want to be pedantic (wink)

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            19 hours ago

            The difference being that parents don’t literally create every aspect of their child with the perfect knowledge of exactly what it will do. God does. To imply God didn’t intend for Satan to do what he did means you have to throw away either all-knowing or all-powerful for your idea of God.