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    • ohulancutash@feddit.ukEnglish
      31·
      8 hours ago

      Yes, because there’s a limit to how thin a screen can be and still fit decent speakers, and that sailed by 20 years ago.

    • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
      5·
      13 hours ago

      Yes. TV speakers have gotten incredibly cheap and low quality. It’s audio/visual. You’ve invested a fair chunk into half of the experience with a TV, but ignored the other half.

        • Scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.techEnglish
          2·
          4 hours ago

          I think they were better at least, and mostly because there was space for them. In a CRT you had enough volume inside the TV to have even just little 2" drivers, now with ultrathins it’s hard to fit any even moderately okay speaker in there.

      • 87Six@lemmy.zip
        23·
        11 hours ago

        I didn’t, really…I can barely afford a 1080p TV. I’m not buying a sound bar, screw that, rather do something else.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      81·
      21 hours ago

      If you’re watching movies mixed for surround sound on the stereo speakers on your TV, you’re gonna have a bad time

      I would know, I do it all the time

      • 87Six@lemmy.zip
        72·
        19 hours ago

        I’m glad I’m no avid of movies. Wasn’t enough that TV’s are so locked down and spying on me, now I’d have to buy extra stuff too… Screw that noise…

        • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
          3·
          7 hours ago

          I appreciate TVs not wasting resources on putting decent speakers in it that I’ll never use because I did buy a soundbar over a decade ago that has decent sound and has outlasted the TV I bought it for. Plus TVs are so thin these days that they probably can’t even drive decent bass, and the speakers they do have are rear facing, so they don’t even drive the sound towards you.

          Modularity isn’t a bad thing IMO.

          • 87Six@lemmy.zip
            2·
            7 hours ago

            Okay this I can completely agree with actually, good take. You changed my mind and you’re right.

            I kinda wish some things would be simple but eh it is what it is.

            • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
              1·
              6 hours ago

              Oh yeah, I understand the sentiment entirely. With so many dark patterns dominating the world we live in because we live in a society that decided to embrace greed instead of seeing it as a primary motivator of evil, I can’t blame anyone that looks at the state of things with suspicion anytime there are downsides. And while it isn’t realistic to expect as good audio from a built-in system as a separate dedicated audio system, I do think it’s ridiculous that the standard is so dysfunctional that you either can’t understand what people are saying or explosions are way too loud. Especially in this digital world where mixing separate audio channels isn’t a difficult task. Streaming services should just have a stereo and mono version of the audio that is mixed well for that format if it is actually a harder problem than I think it is.

              Some of it is practicality, but I don’t doubt that greed also plays into it. I mean, even on the modularity side, I don’t have the option of easily finding a TV without any speakers at all, or a TV without smart features that a) aren’t as good as other options I have to access those features and b) were actually thrown in to spy on data, as your previous comment mentioned.

              So yeah, I don’t blame you at all for being suspicious of the companies that absolutely are trying to fuck their users because their real customers are data buyers, even if I do prefer my soundbar.

        • Corhen@lemmy.world
          3·
          12 hours ago

          you’ve had to buy ‘extra stuff’ for decades. The TV is only half the equation.

          Its buying a DSLR camera, and being upset it didn’t come with the best lens. It comes with one that works, but you arn’t going to have good results.

        • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
          62·
          19 hours ago

          Home theatre systems have been a thing for decades. Soundbars are the cheaper and simpler new alternative.

          Alternatively you can just use a media player thay compresses audio. This is easier if you use a PC connected to your TV but I’m sure some TV apps allow it too.