Wow, am I the only person on lemmy to grow up before any digital clocks, where all the clocks were 12 hours ? Yes, yes I am
There are 24 hour analog clocks dude.
AM/PM time is another thing that needs to sink with the USA, just like the Imperial system and Fahrenheit.
What’s wrong with AM/PM lol. How many countries use 24h? Honesty, because I actua lly never thought about it before.
It’s extremely common in Europe. I regularly get messages with “15h”, “22h”, etc, but spoken is a bit of a mixed bag, you can usually use 12 hour time and know if it’s AM/PM from context, but sometimes you need to be specific.
Though the weirdest thing I’ve had to learn in Germany about time is, near where I live it’s common to say “one/three quarters [hour]”, instead of “quarter past/to [hour]”, so 10:15 is “one quarter 11”, and 10:45 is “three quarters 11”. It makes a little more sense when you know that “half 11” mean “half to 11”, not “half past” like is typical in English.
You are trolling, right? Like, majority are using 24h.
Disclaimer: generalizations from personal experience.
Some nations use 12h with “at the morning” or “in the evening” in casual verbal conversations. In formal conversations it’s always 24h clock. Just yesterday I was booking an appointment at reception and they proposed me 14:45, so 24h clock, even though it is obvious that place is closed at 2:45 AM. But AFAIK some don’t use 12h even in casual speech, like Germans. Maybe Germans can confirm here.
I think it’s language thing, I never heard of “AM/PM” in language other than English. If you want to tell time in 12h clock it’s usually period of the day, like “2, at night”, “6 in the morning”, “10 in the evening”, which is much more cumbersome than just 2, 6, 22. And imagine it in writing.
I took a nap one time on a spring afternoon and woke up at 6:00. Only I wasn’t sure if it was afternoon or I slept all night until morning. Weird feeling.
12 clock is easier to read at a distance.
Digital clocks handle 24 pretty well
Honestly my mind has been tweaking lately ever since I started working. I’m under artificial lights all day long and sometimes I have no clue when I see “9:00” if it’s night or morning for at least 5secs. I really hate how my phone doesn’t show AM PM either.
Also using 24hrs clock really puts the time spent in the day into perspective. 9pm doesn’t look as daunting as “you’re 21hrs” into the day.
Well, I hope you are sleeping. So technically your day starts at <put whatever time you’re getting up>.
0th hour should start at 6 AM or something. But I better stop thinking about how dumb clocks and calendars are
Clocks were sundials.
If you can see the time, it’s not night.
100% This.
Also, being an evolution of sundials is the reason all analog clocks move their hands in the same direction.
So you’re saying clockwise can also be called sundialwise?
Or just sunwise
*Being evolution of sundials located on the northern hemisphere.
Not all, but most
I present to you, illuminated clocks!
crowd gasps MY UNIVERSE IS COLLAPSING the crowd starts screaming and lighting things on fire
…and then they noticed: “Damn, we could have lit everything on fire and seen our clocks in the night time millenia ago!”
Galaxy brain time
Your sundial still isn’t showing time.
It’s showing a time
Clocks, not sundials
The lights go out, and I can’t be saved
Tides that I tried to swim against
How are the illuminated clocks able to comprehend your presentation?
Magic ✨
I still don’t know why everyone doesn’t just use the 24-hour clock. It’s so much easier.
It’s like someone had doubts people could count much past 12, so just had them do that twice. Or maybe Big Clock didn’t want to manufacture 24 hour faces and sold the lie.
As for the clock face, a 12 hour face is much easier to read at a glance or from a distance.
one thing that I’m proud of my team at work for is just defaulting to using 24hr time when adding timestamps to filenames. I require datestamps, but there are no rules on timestamps if there are multiple files for that day. and a few of them just started appending the time in 24 hour format. I was so proud.
It’s like someone had doubts people could count much past 12
More like the people who invented a lot of shit used base 12.
Things restarting at 12, is because the thing is so old, it predates base 10.
Like, pick a language, count to thirteen:
Ein, zwei, drei, fire, funf, sechs, seben, acht, neun, zein, elf, zwolf, dreizein…
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen…
Notice how 11 and 12 aren’t one-teen and two-teen?
On each hand is 4 sets of 3 knuckles, touch your thumb to each knuckle and your finger counting on one hand higher than we can with two. Pretty sure there’s some pretty neat math tricks with their method too, almost like built in abacus.
But all this is off memory.
More like the people who invented a lot of shit used base 12.
I thought we got it from the Babylonians, turns out we actually got it from the Ancient Egyptians.
Nope, it’s just down to how many “decans” you could see at any one point during the night.
Ein, zwei, drei, fire, funf, sechs, seben, acht, neun, zein, elf, zwolf, dreizein…
One, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen…
Yksi, kaksi, kolme, neljä, viisi, kuusi, seitsemän, kahdeksan, yhdeksän, kymmenen, yksitoista, kaksitoista, kolmetoista…
(though, notice that our words for “eight” and “nine” are derived from those for “two” and “one”. We used base 8 before migrating to Europe and applying the local standard. Then it was "two left until the new ten and “one left until the new ten”
With base 8 you can use your fingers to count up to 24 because you can use your thumbs for marking the “tens”. Or to 32, but that already takes a little bit of an effort because from my perspective your left thumb is on the right.)But yeah, base 10 is the worst. 12 can be divided by 3 without problems. And base 8 allows counting far higher with just fingers.
Still better than Danish…
/s
But yeah thanks! When I saw it was Finns I checked the Danes because they’re always doing their own thing, they go by 20s, so tens alternate “half 20s”.
The cool math trick I know of is using your other hand to count groups of 12, 5 fingers times 12 knuckles is 60.
I dont like the look of the numbers
It’s not called Big Clock, it’s called Big Ben /j
Um akshually, Big Ben is the bell. The clock is just “The Great Clock of Westminster.” And the tower itself is called “Elizabeth Tower.”
(But everyone just calls the whole thing Big Ben.)
Big Clock
looks at London and it’s big clock you, have been, REVEALED
Hmmm 4 20
beautiful
12h clocks are 24h clocks if you just keep counting.
