Eh, depends on the subject matter. Some things definitely have trends that divided down gender lines, and it’s not sexist to point this out. Men trend towards violence, women trend towards relational and social dynamics. The raw numbers back this up, but there are exceptions (obviously).
Noticing trends is one thing, overgeneralizing is another matter. This is an overgeneralization and it’s harmful because it reinforces traits of toxic masculinity. “If you’re not violent then you’re effeminate” is not the message we should be sending.
This isn’t incorrect. I just tend to disassociate when I see blanket statements about men because I usually don’t fit the description.
It’s good to be vigilant about this stuff but I’m pretty sure this tumblr user is mostly shitposting, and it’s clearly against toxic masculinity. I mean the distilled message of the post is “we are all the same”.
Excusing overgeneralizations when they’re applied to men? That’s typical…
I guarantee you would feel different if someone was overgeneralizing about women. Do they just need to grow thicker skin, or is it only men who are supposed to be stoics?
Like I said above, I agree with you. A similar statement about women would be correctly seen as mysogyny. I’m just stating that it isn’t any more egregious than gestures broadly
There’s a lot of egregious stuff going on, but I don’t think stooping to the level of egregiousness and turning the same bullshit around on anyone who seems like a convenient target is a tenable solution. That’s letting the egregiousness win.
Usually whenever I call out double standards in gender stereotypes, I get some pseudo-feminist responding with something to the effect of “lol chud red pilled ‘not all men!’ lmao. Historical oppression! Suffragettes! Treating men with basic dignity is patriarchy! Demanding a bare minimum of respect is chauvinism!”
Imagine the same phrasing used to describe something “some” women do…
“Ever notice how women…”
Notice how it’s suddenly not okay? So what’s different about it when it’s phrased the same way about “men”?
Eh, depends on the subject matter. Some things definitely have trends that divided down gender lines, and it’s not sexist to point this out. Men trend towards violence, women trend towards relational and social dynamics. The raw numbers back this up, but there are exceptions (obviously).
Noticing trends is one thing, overgeneralizing is another matter. This is an overgeneralization and it’s harmful because it reinforces traits of toxic masculinity. “If you’re not violent then you’re effeminate” is not the message we should be sending.
This isn’t incorrect. I just tend to disassociate when I see blanket statements about men because I usually don’t fit the description.
It’s good to be vigilant about this stuff but I’m pretty sure this tumblr user is mostly shitposting, and it’s clearly against toxic masculinity. I mean the distilled message of the post is “we are all the same”.
Excusing overgeneralizations when they’re applied to men? That’s typical…
I guarantee you would feel different if someone was overgeneralizing about women. Do they just need to grow thicker skin, or is it only men who are supposed to be stoics?
Like I said above, I agree with you. A similar statement about women would be correctly seen as mysogyny. I’m just stating that it isn’t any more egregious than gestures broadly
There’s a lot of egregious stuff going on, but I don’t think stooping to the level of egregiousness and turning the same bullshit around on anyone who seems like a convenient target is a tenable solution. That’s letting the egregiousness win.
It’s double standards
Usually whenever I call out double standards in gender stereotypes, I get some pseudo-feminist responding with something to the effect of “lol chud red pilled ‘not all men!’ lmao. Historical oppression! Suffragettes! Treating men with basic dignity is patriarchy! Demanding a bare minimum of respect is chauvinism!”
and quite frankly it really gets old…