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Ah gender bait, haven’t seen gender bait around these parts in like… 10 minutes?
Yea it always catches me off-guard that Lemmy is so aggressively progressive on pretty much all fronts but still seems to fall for this type of stuff. I guess I shouldn’t be surprised, but I am disappointed
I hate seeing gender rage content, just today on Reddit one of the most upvoted posts was titled “men will eat all your food” (not verbatim) in which the poster said “if you pay for groceries evenly and share with a man you are subsidizing his calories (because they eat more)” also not verbatim
this is such a majorly fucked up view that I can’t even get started, my gf and I cook for each other and never once think about how the food is being split, we talk about what it tastes and how we can improve it and other dishes we can try
imo the majority of this content is some kind of psyop, I refuse to believe people are so bitter
I’ve seen almost no difference in attitudes about gender and sexual insecurity in Lemmy as Reddit broadly, people here will scream about socialism and the environment, but the moment someone says “Men have silly habits about this thing” suddenly the leering face of Andrew Tate appears like an apparition in your monitor and the screen turns red and everyone suddenly has a story about how girls are mean.
Also, a lot of the bots and astroturfers who are literally paid to amplify and distort arguments actually are allowed to run with far more freedom on these backwater, leftist sites because people here think it’s a “sheltered” and isolated community, and the traffic here is slower so moderation is less active.
I agree with your entire post, but especially the second paragraph.
Every time stupid shit like this begins to pop up more frequently, there’s something like an election or an Epstein ruling that is about to show up.
People here like to think theyre very progressive… but theres a heck of a lot of misogyny, transphobia and homophobia tbh.
Better?
…I mean the joke still works. So, yes?
Where do you goon?
At the library.
Okay, that worked. That made me forget about ICE and greenland for 2 minutes
Whoever said art is dead needs slickle on their peeny.
Wtaf
“The brain is the most erogenous zone in the body.”
“For you, maybe.”
When a woman wants to read a fictional story with relatable characters and emotional context who are also attracted to each other and have sex in about 30% of the scenes it’s seen as a bit of naughty fun, but when a man wants to jerk off for 3 minutes to a close-up clip of an over-saturated oil-coated faceless asshole getting pounded by a faceless cock, and maybe go for a bonus scene of the girl turning red and gagging from being facefucked, suddenly he’s a “pervert”
relatable characters
As seen in monster erotica genre. 👀
tbf facefucking is hot
It is, but it’s also pretty undeniably perverted. Lots of women and men both get off to it. Lots of erotica is perverted too, of course. Nothing wrong with being kinky!
I just think it’s silly that the OP tries to pretend as though the typical erotica is the same sort of thing as the typical porn. Anyone who has consumed both can verify they’re vastly different. And I think it’s especially infuriating that the OP tries to make women out as hypocritical about this when, in my experience, plenty of women like visual porn too, and I’ve never personally known a woman irl who hates on visual porn but also reads erotica. Seems like a totally imaginary caricature as far as I’m concerned. Primo gender war bait.
May men and women unite to be horny and kinky and unashamed of it together!
It is sexual but I would not use the term perverted, it’s half a step removed from sinful and I don’t stand for that kind of thing. To be sexual isn’t wrong or unnatural.
op is definitely some low effort rage-bait content, agreed
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Consensual face fucking is the only acceptable face fucking, so yes, help would indeed be a requirement. As the saying goes, it takes two to facefuck.
No need to kink shame. Not every woman that participates in a good ol’ fashioned face fucking is having a bad time. Lots of women like being dominated just like a bunch of men. That’s not to say the porn industry doesn’t have issues with abuse, but a blanket shaming is dumb.
This might be the most obvious attempt to paint women as judgmental hypocritics with reading comprehension issues that I’ve seen yet. Please take your ineptly executed false flag gender war psyops strawman arguments elsewhere 🙏
Homie my comment is sarcastic, it references a meme that makes fun of the original post. I’m pointing out that erotica and (most) visual porn are definitely not comparable like the OP implies and that it isn’t hypocritical to see one as more perverted than the other.
https://www.reddit.com/r/copypasta/comments/73rgq0/when_a_girl_buys_a_vibrator/
But thank you for standing up to what you must have perceived as actual insanity
Unless your reply refers to the OP in which case it is I that have misunderstood
Pretty sure the (visual) porn I like doesn’t look anything like that horny Duracell bunny’s fever dream we can make out through the description you so graciously provided. Also pretty sure that “perverted men” will look like choir boys next to an actually perverted woman, there’s a few text samples floating around that I think are basically unhinged. But I don’t think there’s anything to judge, the point is that both of these types of media are home to an entire spectrum of wholesome and less wholesome depictions of adult relations.
It’s okay to say they are wholly incomparable, then don’t actually compare them! Or say the opposite, that they are basically the same, and then there’s also no unequality between the genders. It’s just that when you start to pick and choose, and say that one is worse than the other, your position becomes founded on hypocrisy.
this outdated gender weirdness makes me feel uncomfortable tbh
Here ya go. Better?
yes
Glad to help :)
It’s a gross kind of weirdness is it? It’s like some kind of really sad masturbation ritual. Like they can’t get an erection unless they are angry enough and their little private fetishes just aren’t enough anymore, so they are trying to get people to argue just enough that they can finally whip one out.
Isn’t the issue the exploitation of sex workers, mostly women? Like if you’ve found ethical porn, by all means wack your shit to it. I just think the things people are able to explore with writing, or hell even animation if the artists aren’t exploited, are much more varied and interesting without exploiting actors. Like I’ve found a few queer porn projects that are like owned by the actors and stuff. Basically porn coops, which is fucking awesome.
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I would not say that men tend towards extreme porn. I would say part of it is platforms serving the more extreme kinks to their viewers and part of it is getting desensatised by watching pornography for years.
Frankly, looking at the “romance” section, that may be an outdated stereotype.
Either that, or “extreme” is doing a lot of legwork in that sentence.
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I failed the preception check, can someone tell me is this satire?
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I was talking about you claiming women are inferior and you not being affected. Those are dubious claims if you meant them.
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Well trough that lens it is perverted to enjoy most video games.
I wouldn’t call it perverted because I think that word has been stigmatized and weaponized to shame people, but I do in fact shop for video games based on which studios seem to treat their workers the fairest.
My point is that if you want to shame people because of exploitation you should shame most video game players just like the viewers of exploitative porn. Anything else is just an excuse to be a regressive prude.
Okay sure, there’s no ethical consumption under capitalism. So yeah, feel shame for consuming all media, ethical or not. /s
Is that the broad statement you want me to say to avoid being picked apart because it’s “technically correct” which is the only type of correct I need to be to “win” this would be discussion turned argument?
Killer “gotcha” moment bud 🤣
If someone buys a game they know exploits workers, or is destroying the world by participating in the AI bubble, and feels shame for doing it, that’s between them and their conscience. Shame is an incredible motivator, particularly for social and political issues. There’s a reason it gets shouted at protests and at political figures. All I said was shaming people for being interested in sexually explicit content is bad. I did not say all shame is bad.
I could go on, but OH! Would you look at that. It’s block o’clock! Lovely chatting with you while it lasted.
It’s only because monster erotica porn can’t match the realism of my imagination… yet.
