• Azzu@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 day ago

    I mean to be fair, that’s how prison is supposed to work. Rehabilitate the person so after, they’re fit to become a normal member of society again.

    Of course, that’s only the theory of a few enlightened people…

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      21 hours ago

      I agree this is how prison should work. However, in my opinion this is not how driver’s licenses should work. I think it should be possible to forfeit any chance of ever driving again.

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        12 hours ago

        Roughly agree.

        Loosely related, I’ve been thinking recently that we really need to make it harder to get and keep a license. I’ve noticed a lot of absolutely terrible drivers don’t even realize they are driving badly. If they had to, say, pass a driving test every 3-5 years then someone would force them to listen to exactly what they are doing wrong, and keep them from the streets until they fix it.

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        20 hours ago

        I wouldn’t quite agree. Sure, a car can be used as a weapon, but that’s not its primary function. I’m not aware of the exact case, but if prison rehabilitated him in a way that he no longer uses a car as a weapon, and that’s his only driving-related offense, I really see no reason why he shouldn’t get a driving license. Unfortunate as it may be, not being able to have a car is a severe disadvantage in a lot of areas.

        I would agree with you if it was about a gun license. Having a gun is only useful as a weapon.

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          19 hours ago

          I don’t know about England, but at least here in Denmark, many people who have served a sentence will get into a trade. Without a drivers license those jobs can be practically impossible to keep.

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          18 hours ago

          It seems only logical to me that if we have tests for people to earn the right to drive a car, then there should also be a possibility of forfeiting that right again.

          I sort of get the gun argument but it’s not airtight in my opinion. Guns too can be used in harmless ways (shooting as a sport) so by the same logic full rehabilitation would include getting a gun license back.

          And sure not having a car can be a big disadvantage, but so is having a criminal record, and we don’t stop jailing people because of that. Rehabilitation doesn’t mean that all consequences of your crime are undone.

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            18 hours ago

            At least in my country, no one can know about your criminal record, so it’s not a disadvantage. And it shouldn’t be.

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      That is exactly how it should work and not nearly enough people recognize that. It’s part of the social contract: You break the rules, you get punished. After the punishment, you are a full member of society again.

      Otherwise you just get punished again and that should not be the case.