• Sunflier@lemmy.world
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    No person shall . . . be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.

    -5th Amendment

    It doesn’t say no citizen. It says no person. So, if Due Process doesn’t apply to them, are they no longer people? Isn’t this basically one of the steps that led into the holocaust? They stripped the Jews of their citizenship, deprived them of personhood, then exterminated them.

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    If due process rights don’t exist for immigrants, then they don’t exist for anyone. How can you show you’re not an immigrant without due process?

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    Really just shows what George Carlin said for a long time, there’s no such thing as “rights”. They’re temporary privileges that can be revoked whenever convenient.

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      That’s a dumb take. Rights are intrinsic to all people, they can’t be taken away, even if they are violated. Everybody experiences various levels of human rights violations, but nobody has fewer rights because of the crimes commited against them.

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      First they came for the Communists

      And I did not speak out

      Because I was not a Communist

      Then they came for the Socialists

      And I did not speak out

      Because I was not a Socialist

      Then they came for the trade unionists

      And I did not speak out

      Because I was not a trade unionist

      Then they came for the Jews

      And I did not speak out

      Because I was not a Jew

      Then they came for me

      And there was no one left

      To speak out for me

      -Martin Niemoller