Similarly, Steam has some option about “adult only games” that doesn’t seem to mean “you don’t have to keep asking me my birthday for ‘grim’ games”, i.e. games you have to verify you’re an adult to see, instead it seems to mean “show me porn games”.

This kind of bowdlerised English or whatever it’s called is usually weird and confusing to us non-natives. Like, it’s apparently OK to have the puerile stuff, you just can’t be normal about it?

“Adult” doesn’t imply genital stuff to the rest of us, USA.

Lower Decks is peak Star Trek. The humor is almost entirely related to previous ST series.

Is OP a Klingon agent sent to ruin our fun?

I think you might be in a minority on your dislike of Lower Decks.

Also, violence has always been part of Star Trek and if you don’t like profanity, you are posting in the wrong fucking place.

Dude, TAS was set on the flagship of the fleet, LD is set on a B grade tow truck.

They are not the same

I guess the secondary directive of the Federation is to gatekeep having fun?

Animation isn’t for children by default. Only boring, unimaginative people talk that way about animated stories.

Star Trek has always had violence.

Star Trek has often had profanity. In another alien language sure, but we all knew which Klingon words were curses.

Does sophomoric humor graduate to senior humor when it’s subtle enough that you didn’t catch it as a child? Humor is SUPER subjective and VERY sensitive to the current zeitgeist, so comparing humor across a franchise that has been around this long seems a little absurd. Data pushed Crusher into the ocean for a laugh, that seems pretty sophomoric to me. Bones regularly joked about Spock’s racial differences, that also seems pretty crude by today’s standards.

Someone’s funny bone got eaten by Moopsy

I think you’re missing the context of ALL the adult animation shows that came before it, because Lower Decks does something special in that category. LD takes the typical adult animation sitcom and mixes in the optimism and character writing from the best Star Trek shows, and it does this quite well. (By the way, they tone down the Rick and Morty stuff after the first few episodes, so don’t get discouraged if that’s what’s bothering you).

No one misinterpreted your original post. It was sarcastic and dismissive, so people responded with that same energy.

As to the edit, I think it’s good that the new Trek shows each have such distinct personalities. They won’t all appeal to everyone, but the overall diversity is a strength. Part of what killed Star Trek in the 2000s was that TNG, Voyager, and Enterprise had all stuck to a very consistent approach. After close to twenty years, it was inevitably feeling a bit stale.

Careful up there on your high horse

Sorry you can’t enjoy something if you think it’s childish. Your life must be awful.

i love lower decks but that’s in spite of and not because of the “adult humor.” the jokes that make me laugh- which is most of them!- would be exactly the same if it was an all ages program on Nickelodeon like Prodigy. the good does ultimately outweigh the bad, and signifigantly so, i just think it was a missed opportunity. i was pretty young when i watched TNG and TOS with my parents and probably would’ve gotten a huge kick out of LD

apparently tawney newsome is gonna be writing on the starfleet academy show so that might end up being The Best of Both Worlds (Parts I and II) between all-ages trek and funny trek

The difference is really just the profanity because even cartoons made for children tend to have violence and toilet humor.

Let me lead with this: I’ve also grown tired of the samieness of adult animation genre. Rick & Morty was alright for a while, but that ship was basically sailed for me by the time other shows started jumping on the trend. I appreciate what R&M/Adult Swim did in opening up the field for animation to be taken more seriously in the pitch room, we’ll probably have an entire generation of decent media because of that, but we’ve kind of hit the trough of this first wave. That said, I liked Lower Decks a lot, because it kind of got rid of the high-stakes high-adventure selling point and zoomed in on the stakes and adventures that every day, non-galaxy class Starfleet crews can get into. It’s DS9 but with the adult animation vibe instead of the daytime TV soap opera vibe. I love the introduction of the Cali class ships that are just sort of your regular, everyday, multi-role ships. I love that the Cali fleet and the Cerritos are largely just focused on the normal, unglamorous stuff that has to happen in the background while the really cool people and ships do cool stuff in space.

I also liked that the permission to be goofy and work with low stakes felt like it gave Star Trek the room it needs to breathe. It’s hard to do serious new Trek that meaningfully expands the canon while also respecting what came before, which, I think, is why we tend to get a higher ratio of prequels. It’s just easier and safer to stay within the bounds of the canon and tell Captain Pike’s story (I fucking love SNW, not dissing it). Case and point for new Trek, you’ve got Discovery, which I haven’t really enjoyed because it very much feels like it doesn’t have room to breathe and/or was written by focus groups. Maybe it gets better later, but I watched the first two episodes and found it less enjoyable than auditing lectures. LD’s characters and premise felt much more interesting by comparison, and I’ve really enjoyed the storytelling. It’s not perfect Trek, but I think it’s a show that largely knew itself and focused on trying to be the best version of what it was, and that’s what’s going to make it hard to beat.

Well now I have to check it out

You wanted Lower Decks to be more boring? I like a good conference room scene as much as the next Trekkie, but they only had 22 minutes to work with!