With the Stephen Miller appointment, it should be abundantly clear what is coming next… we got a win at the midterms, but the White House is going to double down on Fascism. Schumer and Jeffries are ill-equipped for this fight.
Go to the pasture.
Legal Eagle put out an excellent video on the subject of we need to pursue every avenue, every method of gathering and publishing information showing what this regime did, will do, so it is at least a matter of public record. So that if the Dems gain more control over politics in 2029 that they can be persecuted and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Not doing so will just lead us back here again and again and again.
The Dems won because people rejected Trump. Not because people are happy with the DNC. The DNC was actually more unpopular as a whole than the GOP. Progressives crushed it, even in places where they shouldn’t have. Plus with the Michigan lady betrayal, it shows that AIPAC money takes precedent over US needs…again. anyone taking AIPAC money should not be in a leadership role as they don’t value Americans first.
Us dwarves up in the far North have a saying: forge while the iron is hot. Now is the time to send useless idiots into retirement, and criminals into the slammer.
Yep, no-bias house cleaning. If you suck and you’re not a vacuum cleaner, you’ve gotta go! Democrat, Republican, MAGA, Libertarian, Whig, Communist, or otherwise. The age of do-nothing-Democrats is coming to an end. Now we’ve gotta make progress.
And that present leadership is willing to make everything that happened water under the bridge essentially, the DNC is going to have a reckoning these next two years.
This is the time to reach out to these new or revalidated officials and tell them this is the time to take power back.
I’ve sent emails to my new senator and house rep, but things like 5calls.org are probably useful too. The calls require (people like me) to be a little more prepared with what we want to talk about, but the time is NOW. Also set a reminder for 1/21 and remind them this was, in fact, a mandate to make things different.
If you’ve been disappointed with milquetoast dems… call them right now. Email them at the least.
Drown them in the proof that we demand accountability for the current regime and progress on the issues that we all want.
My state didn’t flip at all so I’ve no one to really call. I can just promote others do so with their elected officials because let’s be honest, the Repubs will not change.
But it did move significantly to the left, even deep red areas saw huge gains and are barely more red now than before. Even if it didn’t flip that doesn’t mean it’s not on the verge and continuing to push in that direction is actually worth the effort. The entire country is moving left, we need to keep the pressure on
They didn’t flip, but now those in power no longer feel unassailable and may actually start listening to their constituents.
Even if your state didn’t flip, your elected officials certainly saw what happened. Let them know they aren’t out of the woods.
“There’s 260 of us with full teams to back us up. We couldn’t possibly focus on more than one thing at a time.”
-Jeffries
They do need to go. Their goal is status quo and treading water.
I agree with some of the new folks who feel like impeachment shouldn’t be the goal. It’s too limited. Accountability and legislation need to be the goals. Impeachment is a subset of that. So is going on a press tour rager when legislation is blocked or vetoed.
Democrats need to wake up and bring the Republicans to bear and fight for the people who elected them. Treading water and whining about Ted Cruz reading Cat in the Hat don’t get us there. Make him stand there until he dies of dehydration. Tear them down in a public forum. Do something.
Honestly, I think we should refer some war crimes to the International Criminal Court. Germany went through de-nazification and even that didn’t go perfectly. A lot of people slid under the radar and remained lurking at the edges of power.
I agree that we need to BOTH set firm standards for the future and prosecute the crimes of the past. Part of that, and the part the Democrats hate, is that the Democratic party needs to function… more democratically. No more brokering backroom deals to suppress progressive challengers (that means you Debbie Wassermann-Schultz), no AIPAC money, no felating tech bros.
Denazification was thoroughly half assed. I’d say maybe even quarter assed.
The icj and icc has no enforcement power , so useless
we should refer some war crimes to the International Criminal Court
That’s brilliant. Hand over Hegseth and Miller and Noem, and Mullin and Homan and others to that court for trial and justice.
As someone who has absolutely 0 belief in Bourgoise Democracy I’ll tell you what I think will happen: They’ll put up some sacrificial lambs like that lady who was the greek ambassador and Lauren Bobert and a few other mid level crooks. They’ll bring them into congress and grill them and then maybe they get 10 years in prison max. More likely some fines and stuff. Trump will probably pardon anyone who is going to see real consequences. They’ll then take their money and run. Dems will control the White House and both chambers of congress after 2028, but they won’t pass public healthcare, or anything else like that. They’ll do some minor reforms and maybe a public option that will become a permanent battle every single budget hearing. By 2030 midterms there will be a snapback and “Red Wave”.
As for the foreign policy stuff I didn’t mention it because to quote Biden, “Nothing will fundamentally change.”
I hope I’m proven wrong. I really do.
That’s exactly what will happen if we don’t completely replace leadership starting with these two.
Personally I don’t think the issue is just your leadership. It’s all of them. The democrats are all just playing you guys for fools. Even the ones who talk about medicare for all and stuff don’t intend to actually do it save for very few of them, and once they get in a few months later they’ll be voting for Defence Budget expansions, and all that other stuff just like anyone else. Unless Americans get in the street and start burning shit down nothings going to happen. Be French.
Schumer lost everything while doing nothing except making a big fuss before losing. GTFO.
Fox News’s Sean Hannity ranted bitterly about Hasan Piker, the left-wing political commentator.
“Now before, nobody in the Democratic Party stood up to Hasan Piker, and that wing of the party, but the inclusion party, they did kick out Haley Stevens. She’s out of the party. That’s what we’re dealing with,” Hannity [said](https://x.com/Acyn/status/2118163462862098499?a=vYz3Rmeie8ShkgMB0dM\&s=20).
These ghouls really have nothing when they are throwing blame toward a twitch streamer. Pathetic cry more.
Others could be fired, such as Secretary of Defense [Pete Hegseth](https://newrepublic.com/post/217587/donald-trump-pete-hegseth-midterms), whom Trump has been considering giving the axe.
That would be so amazing… PLEASE
Some Republicans seem to be in agreement: Representative Thomas Massie plans to resurrect his articles of impeachment against Hegseth, and several members of the GOP [believe](https://newrepublic.com/post/217633/pete-hegseth-impeached-before-democrats-congress) it will pass.
If Trump doesn’t get to him first LOL
Oh, I assumed the plan was to impeach Hegseth for his most heinous offenses and then find him not guilty – that way when the dems are in office, the Republicans can then say, “why are you impeaching him for this?! We already did it. This is a waste of resources. This is all a show.”
Hasan aura-farmed these fools for months. :D
Also, I can’t wait for South
parkAmerica to catch up with all of this!Gauranteed, South Park is gonna ridicule the ever loving shit out of Jeffries, schumer and the Dems within 6 months.
As is tradition.
Democrats need new leadership, not just new faces playing the same political games. No more political theater.
Put AOC in charge
AOC in senate with Omar as speaker.
Yes please!
Dont just replace, prosecute. The Leahy laws are very clear about us not supporting regimes engaged in genocide and these chucklefucks did it anyway. They are criminal conspirators and belong in prison for abetting mass murder.
Get these losers out, for sure. Bring in the new era of progressives, leave the DINOs in the past.
I pray to god that they put people in power whose #1 priority is addressing the cost of living crisis. If they keep pushing idiots who are more concerned with identity politics than the well-being of the American people, this powder keg is going to explode.
There can only be so many young men who are unable to find a job and unable to afford a house before you end up with a civil war. Trump completely ignored our economic problems. If the next administration does the same the only outlet will be violence.
that they put people in power whose #1 priority is addressing the cost of living crisis.
To do that they’ll have to look far below the surface at the actual root causes. And fixing that, even if they do everything 100% perfectly, will take a long time to accomplish.
Hopefully the American people have the patience and wisdom to allow that to happen, and don’t just toss them all out if there aren’t instant results. (I don’t expect the electorate to have either, but I am willing to be pleasantly surprised.)
Non-American here. I don’t think it will be successful… Almost all your politicians are bought and owned by Israel and paid for with your own tax dollars that your politicians send to Israel.
Yeah you’re better off but Israel runs your lives through bribes.
I truly believe the Millennials and Gen Z will be the first generation of Americans to tell Israel that they can’t take all your money to murder women and children for no reason.
I think you’ve done an amazing job and I wish you well.
I am in Australia and our loudest, most evil politician is a horrible woman I’ve hated since I was a kid in the 90s and she (and her billionaire benefactor) wants Israel to have a place in Australia.
Free Palestine, Free it from the evil of a terrorist state!
I think that what’s happened in America at the midterms can be another motivator for us to vote against ON and their ilk in the VIC election, similar to what happened in the federal one. I’m from Victoria, and the amount of attention her vapid party is getting isn’t reflecting the word on the street. I’m hopeful.
I’ve hated Pauline Hanson since I was a kid in the 90s and she was screaming about the Chinese.
I don’t think she has as much support as the media pretends she does but the media are the reason she’s suddenly a thing again.
She was supposed to fuck off to the UK to get away from the Chinese. I was devastated when I learned she had come back
Now she’s just Gina Rineharts mouth piece and she only exists because Gina Rinehart wants to take all our money and prop herself up the way Trump, Musk, Bezos and Zuckerberg have done for the last two years.
The only upside is that Pauline is a woman and dumbass bogans don’t respect women.
I’m still off the opinion that every problem we’re all going through is because that piece of shit Peter Dutton wanted to rule Australia and he broke the system because he’s such an unlikable cunt…
Hard to imagine the dem establishment letting this happen but it’s nice to read news like this for a change. Progress ebbs and flows and the last few days the conversations seem so much more healthy for us all.
When Dems are in power, we have the luxury of pushing back against the establishment wing of the party. When the GOP is in power, we need to focus our energy on getting them out, even if that means working with less-than-ideal Dems until we can shift focus back to our internal disagreements.
This is why it isn’t helpful to be defeatist about both-sidesism during general elections. We all know the Democratic Party isn’t perfect. But little by little, we can shift the overton window to the left.
That’s all I have to say about it. Obviously that part is behind us for now. Looking ahead, it’ll finally be time to roll our sleeves up and get to work on the issues that matter.
yeah, nice sentiment if it worked but it doest. We’re still in a party utterly captured by AIPAC and plutocrats. Thats 1% changed. The election is over. The centrists dont need anything from us for 2 years. The time to demand action was when we had a way to threaten them. Got a sternly worded letter ready to send huh?
And in the meantime while these fuckwit centrists sell us out–and they will, it’ll depress the voting base and we’ll suffer from anger at democrats next election. Do you understand how that cycle works?
Dude, reread the title of the post. There are elected congresspeople right now who are working on trying to replace the centrist dems from the key leadership positions.
You can’t take an honest look at the recent elections and see the sheer number of progressives who did well, and then tell me that we didn’t move the needle at all. You can try, but I won’t believe you’re doing so honestly.
Be a part of the solution or a part of the problem, it’s your choice. But whatever you choose, you’re either in or you’re in the way. So hop to or hop out.
One second you’re all in on not fighting centrists and concentrating solely on repubs, and the next you are pretending that the battle for progressive outcomes has all but been won already. We wont see progressive outcomes soon, despite the won seats. The time to fight for those has now passed until the next election. You are too easily deceived. What you dont/cant understand is the number of congressman in both house and senate that AIPAC owns amongst the dems (and the repubs just as much I guess, but they as usual do not bear ta;kling about since we have no hope of changing them).
Dems are not your friends and they hate progressives. We needed to vote out centrists, but people like yourself always yell at everyone to do it later. Enjoy the next two years of being ignored by your own party, herr armchair-general.
You don’t know me at all, troll. Stop putting words in my mouth, especially when I’ve been saying the opposite.
Or is this you:
I don’t think you’ll shift anything. The ratchet has been ratcheted. The amount of judges and overall reform needed is just too much and requires spines that don’t exist.
Every ratchet has an opening latch
And a famous chef once said, if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike… There has been no evidence in our lifetime that the US has what it takes to do that.
Thanks for the word salad, I’ll enjoy it with some balsamic vinaigrette
Dude, YouTube that quote, it’s super funny.
do whatever you like with it.
“You guys better do what we say or we’ll vote for you again.” is a heck of a threat there little buddy. How do you expect to actually ‘push back’ against the establishment wing of the party?
Take your unhelpful intentional misinterpretations and propaganda somewhere else there, little buddy.
Answer the question. The DNC has and will again simply stop people from running in the democratic primaries. There is no law to stop them from just refusing entry to the party or revoking the party affiliation.
So primaries do not work for this. As history shows. So how, exactly, are you going to threaten someone if the party says they’re the only blue candidate?
What if the DNC just stops having primaries? There’s no law that says they have to have primaries, or have to have public primaries. It’s all convention.
Abdul El-Sayed won his primary then became Senator. Primaries work, focus your energy on getting people to vote in them. DNC isn’t getting rid of primaries, that’s a completely baseless claim.
https://ivn.us/dnc-to-court-we-are-a-private-corporation-with-no-obligation-to-follow-our-rules/
In the case Wilding vs DNC in 2016 the DNC argued that they have no duty at all to run a fair primary. DNC attorneys argued that the organization is a private political corporation with the right to select its nominees internally and that statements of neutrality were general political or aspirational remarks rather than legally binding contracts.
Spiva (DNC lawyer) stated in court: “We could have voluntarily decided that, ‘Look, we’re gonna go into back rooms like they used to and smoke cigars and pick the candidate that way.’ That’s not the way it was done. But they could have.”
The DNC won that case. The judge said, “To the extent Plaintiffs wish to air their general grievances with the DNC or its candidate selection process, their redress is through the ballot box, the DNC’s internal workings, or their right of free speech — not through the judiciary.”
Yes, a completely baseless claim from the party that didn’t have a presidential primary.
What are you talking about? The Democratic party had a presidential primary in 2024. Biden won them.
There’s lots of things to complain about the Democratic party, you don’t need to make up things.
It’s a fair point. We don’t have much leverage in a two party system. Letters to reps aren’t going to cut it, protesting against the “good” guys just as hard as we did against the fascists is basically the only option at this point.
Primaries. Vote for who the party doesn’t want. It’s actually really simple.
Voting in primaries is for voting with your feelings. Voting in the generals is for voting with your head. Basically vote in primaries if you don’t like how the dems did and vote blue no matter who in the generals.
I’m saying that we need to properly pressure them instead of expecting them to save us willingly. Waiting for the next round of primaries isn’t enough, they simply won’t make the needed choices if they don’t have to.
Well that’s entirely the point then, isn’t it? Tell them that if they don’t do their job properly, then they’ll be fired. I don’t get why that’s such a crazy hard to understand concept, but whatever makes it so hard to understand is probably what got people like Trump into office in the first place
We’re doing the work right now. Climb onboard or get out of the way. We have a long way to go without dragging any deadweight behind us
No, it’s not a fair point. You seem to either not fully understand what voting is or how elections work. The ‘leverage’ is that if they don’t do what we want them to do, they lose their jobs. I wish there were more severe consequences to abandoning the voters, but we don’t have those yet and the only way to get there is to vote
…You can’t do that if you ‘vote blue no matter who.’
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Uh oh someone doesn’t know the difference between a primary and the general election
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Why do you believe primaries are open?
I’m keeping a record of everything my elected officials do right, and everything that they do wrong. And every time I call them, I tell them that we’re keeping track of whether they’re listening to their constituents, we will organize accordingly when they’re up for re-election.
It sounds like an empty threat, but for those of us who actually care, we’re making shit happen.
In my district, we just got rid of an establishment dem representative, and got our first progressive representative in decades.
We can, and are, moving the needle left.
And when the DNC just stops allowing people to run as democrats if they don’t accept AIPAC? The DNC has pulled funding from candidates before for progressive ideology.
Then we run as our own party. But until that point, the way to most effectively move the needle to the left is to shift an already-existing dominant party to the left.
I hope we eventually overthrow the two party system entirely, that’s the dream.
Do you address people as “little buddy” in real life? Do you find it motivates them to consider your views with an open mind?
Open mind? That’s a myth that liberals tell themselves to feel better about their locked down conclusions they’ll fit the facts around.
You still didn’t answer. The question. How do we pressure them?
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Booo bad faith argument booooo
What a takeaway to get out of all this. I’m sure you’re being totally-not-disingenuous, so I’ll treat it with the utmost gravity it deserves.
Shifts weight onto one ass cheek and let’s out a great big fart.
God, that felt good.
Feel free to tell me an alternative solution.
You’re being down voted by people that cheerfully vote for politicians they know don’t represent them. To be fair, they’re still going through waves of ecstasy over voting in “bad” over “worse,” and that really is probably pretty good harm reduction, if Schumer and Jeffries don’t just give Trump everything he wants in the name of “bipartisanship” and an alignment of donors.
If they do than Americans need to take the gloves off, dox their asses and protest at every place they seek rest/peace until they resign.
Tbh, I’d obviously rather they were gone, but I think we’d survive them being in leadership for the next two years. The Dems aren’t likely to get much legislation through with Trump in the Whitehouse anyway, and they should be focused on Epstein & corruption investigations, getting us out of Iran, and inflation relief. In 2 years, Schumer will 100% lose his seat, Jeffries likely the same, and we can push even more DSA candidates into office and also take the white house back. That’s when the Dems will really have a mandate and things like medicare for all, a wealth tax, housing and infrastructure investments, etc are all on the table. At that point, it is non-negotiable that both of them are out of leadership and ideally congress. I wonder if the liberal “centrist” Dems would compromise on Schiff or Raskin for speaker.
It’s hard to imagine in normal condition but if we put pressure on them, contact our senators and representative we might be able to achieve that. I already contacted mine, please contact yours.
This is so Democrats don’t vote for them to lead the party. They are not fit for current landscape and are not what people want. Even ignoring their “centrist” positions, they aren’t even skilled for those positions. They showed us this past 2 years. I forgot the name but I think he was assistant to Jeffries, he was so much better at speaking.
Edit: looking up, maybe it was Joe Neguse
Edit2: yeah that was him: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/84taa_D99sQ so much better speaker than Jeffries
They’ve shown it their entire political careers, afaict.
Media has a vested interest in sowing division on the left. I don’t think they’ve decided to be journalists all of a sudden. Still, this gets the word out and we can use that.
I don’t think any of the boomer networks or major newspapers are running these stories. Just the smaller pandering outlets that are over represented on Lemmy and similar online spaces.
same as in 2016.
DNC leadership dictates to the plebs, not the other way around, just ask Bernie.
I think a lot of people wised up to this. It’s not gonna be as easy for Debbie to steal another primary for Hillary.
both sides do it, Swartz is now a congresswoman for screwing over Bernie in 2016 and Justices John Roberts, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett all got SCOTUS jobs for stealing the 2000 election for Bush.
one hand washes the other, privilege begets privilege, shit sticks to itself…
