Idk what you’re talking about most Americans are mad at the state of out country
Bread and circuses.
Though that’s a little antiquated, so now it’s “high fructose corn syrup and superbowl”.
I’m mad, but what? Once we pull out the guillotines there’s no going back, so right now I’m hoping that checks and balances thing starts to kick in soon.
I agree. I fought very hard for harm reduction. I just think the time for that has came and went. Now we have to mobilize the population and that’s like a 10 year ordeal, if it’s possible at all. It’s slow going but we gave the democrats 8 years to do something I think 10 years for the people to get their act together might be doable.
Because a third of Americans are uninformed, another third is misinformed and thinks the current administration is in line with their goals, the other third is being gaslit by the other 2/3s that this is normal… And for those not buying the gaslighting, they are ignored and still too small of a group to do much.
30 years of watching progressive movements flounder and civil action lead to absolutely zero substantial changes has given me a defeatist attitude. What good is getting mad? It’s not like it will change anything.
From the outside it seems that your progressive movements were a pretty good tool to spread thin the effort that could have gone someplace right, and also to weaken movements which were targeted at the real problems (for example, in the small world of FOSS it’s how FSF and GNU were slowly marginalized into something perceived as unreasonable and Stallman specifically pressed out, and no, his logically correct defense of some kinds of pedophilia and him being generally cringe were not the reason).
Also let’s please remember that everyone flocking to centralized platforms was welcomed by those progressive movements, their activists for whichever reason thought that the scale and the censorship will work in their favor and not those calling to fell the tall trees.
So - this is the logical outcome of what various movements have been doing. This part should make you optimist. And the feeling that you can’t certainly show at something at say that it will succeed should be liberating, not depressing.
Why cling to the defeatist attitude? It defeats itself. Why have a defeatist attitude when defeat is inevitable?
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Like it or not social media got us here. Just not your social media. I could argue with you all day but I won’t. Your message is stupid and a self defeating prophecy. 350000000 people in the US and I don’t need to turn you. I need to reach any other of the 3499999999 who won’t waste my time.
Ever get tired of the hole you live in come join us on the surface. Our drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens.
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I dunno, they seem to be mad. It’s just most of them are wrong about who they should be mad at and why
Those of us who are extremely upset about the state of our country are constantly wondering WTF is wrong with the other ones. I think a large part of it is a slow, progressive dumbing down by our growing addiction to entertainment and convenience. We’ve become a nation of 13-year-olds who think mom is a bitch for making us go to the dentist.
The feeling that nobody else really gives a shit is what does it for me.
I care too, what can I do to prove that I care to you?
I believe you, but this is also a very left-leaning site that pretty much filters out all of the conservative idiocy from it. The general public doesn’t seem to give a shit and when I go out and about in the world it’s like nothing has even changed. I suspect it will be this way for a while even if eventually there is full-blown fascism with a world war and death camps. I remember reading remarks by people who were around during the formation of the Third Reich in Germany and I remember them writing something like all the shops and everything were open and people were going to work like normal for a large portion of it. There was even a person that didn’t realize how crazy the country had gotten until he saw his small child imitating Hitler and saying antisemitic shit about Jews.
Most of my countrymen are very, very fucking stupid.
The rest are generally angry
The stupid ones are angry too… They’re just so stupid they are angry at the wrong things/people
Nice, so we’re all angry! We did it!
Oh, my baseline emotional state these days is fury, but it’s because I know where this road leads, and it damages my calm constantly to know that the powers that be don’t seem to give a fuck.
The powers that be are in on it
The powers that be are in on it in the sense that they are the literal, whole problem.
See, I don’t know where I fall on this list. Because I’m angry everyday, but I’m also pretty stupid. Then I see how stupid OTHER people are.
Like I’m over here wondering if the universe is infinate, how is it expanding? Doesn’t that negate the concept of it being infinite? Or, if it’s not infinite, but it is expanding, doesn’t that suggest that the galaxy is, in perspective, very very young? We’ve found other planets that can support life. We have no evidence that life is on those planets. I’m willing to bet there IS life on those planets. It may be microscopic, and maybe it’s still in the water, but I bet it’s there. Which then raises the obvious question which we have no way in our lifetimes to accurately answer. Will those planets generate a naturally evolved set of humans completely unrelated to earths humans? I mean, logic says no, right? Theres so many variables, that they would evolve to cater to the needs of their planet. Right?
Then I see guys get on the bus, and rummage through the trash can, and yell “WHY DOESN’T ANYONE THROW OUT GOLD OR DIAMONDS, OR MILLIONS OF DOLLARS???”
That is a true story. I saw that.
And I wonder to myself, am I as stupid as I think? Is the whole scale slanted? I feel smarter than those around me…but I also feel like those around me are a few brain cells away from being medically classified as mentally retarded. So it doesn’t feel like I’ve cleared an especially high hurdle there.
But we all know the government lies to us. If they DO know of another life form out there, would they even tell us? I don’t think so. That makes me angry, because I know we don’t have the technology to visit those planets. They’re hundreds of light years away.
So realistically, we would have to start development on a transportation method that travels hundreds of thousands times faster than the speed of light to be able to get there with any realistic time frames. Nobody is going to sit on a space ship traveling for 4 years straight. But that kind of speed in an astroid filled space, with rocks just floating about? You’d have no ability to fly that fast. Any crash would be lethal, and it would happen virtually instantly if you’re traveling like 400,000x the speed of light.
So what did we do before here on earth when traveling long dangerous distances? We built permanent solutions that are still in place today, hundreds of years later. Train tracks!
YES!!! LETS BUILD BULLET SPACE TRAINS!!! AWWWW YEAH!!!
In space, nobody can hear you choo choo motherfucker!
This post is a journey, not a destination.
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Nothing. Everyone I know is very mad about it. The people who aren’t mad about it aren’t mad because they’re being lied to and told that all their racism, homophobia, xenophobia and just plain mean spiritedness is somehow normal and good.
I assure you that anyone who isn’t a monster is very unhappy about the whole situation
I dunno, I walk through my day and most people’s demeanor hasn’t changed in the slightest. The way we suppress all this is very severancesque. Like sure we have our outies memory’s but seems we don’t have their emotions.
I walk through my day and most people’s demeanor hasn’t changed in the slightest
I’m unhappy and angry at the situation. But, am I supposed to mope around all day or have depressing conversations with everyone I meet? Should I start fighting every Trump supporter in my small town?
For some reason your rhetorical question about fighting everyone reminded me of this very important quiz. Know thyself or something.
I don’t know. I just know maybe we hold back when we shouldn’t. Doesn’t that just demonstrate their control over us?
It’s hard to truly internalize this but no matter what you think about something and/or how wrong you think someone else is, we are walking through life with imperfect imaginings of what other people think and feel. Trying to make sense of people is even harder than making sense of a person. And we are quite literally incapable of truly knowing what goes on in someone else’s head.
Definitely ask these questions but don’t drive yourself crazy if people don’t make sense. The behaviors and actions we witness in others are only the emergent characteristics of a lot of brain activity that we aren’t privy to.
Maybe it’s time to be a little crazy. If “a little crazy” is not living in an autocracy.
Because most people are blissfully ignorant. They’re going about their day and if anything they’re possibly reminded that Trump is president by some news channel they pass over on their way to the newest true crime show or whatever the hell is on tictok.
Most people couldn’t be forced to care if you had a gun to their heads as evidenced by our disgusting voting numbers. “Didn’t vote” would win every election if it was a candidate.
Most people “aren’t political” which is nice if only politics didn’t affect your life so deeply. :/
I guess that’s true but who is watching the news then? Who is posting online?
Not enough people unfortunately, although I’m sure there is some overlap between those that don’t vote but still watch the news. I think we overestimate how many people are “politically engaged.”
Most people won’t talk politics unless they know the other person’s opinions already. I’ve had discussions about every day with my friends and wife, but there is no way I’m going to get into a discussion with my parents or maga coworker. I don’t have the energy to debunk every stupid thing they say when they won’t change their mind.
I mean, you don’t just randomly bring up politics. You never know if the other person is a nazi that would report you for “being a communist”. Also, if you do this at work, you’d probably get fired because you get reported for “harassment” and now you’re evicted and on the streets, and starving.
I mean, if you have a pride flag or some other symbols that you wear, I might talk to you because I think you’re safe to talk to.
So, if you want to have conversations about this nazi government, wear a pride flag pin thingy (idk what those are called) or something like that, to signal you aren’t a magat.
Busy with day to day affairs, gotta pay rent/mortgage/medical bills, gotta feed the family, gotta keep working, can’t take risks, …
People only revolt when they can no longer do those things. Literal starvation is often the cause of revolution in history. Let’s face it America is not there. Yes life is becoming a crushing grind. Yes we have statistics from policy institutes about food insecurity blah blah. But America is not fucking starving. If a few are, they do not have the strength to overpower the many others who still have something left to lose.
That sounds like it should make you mad
It does, but I’m busy with day to day affairs, gotta pay rent/mortgage/medical bills, gotta feed the family, gotta keep working, can’t take risks, …
The sitting around, waiting for “someone” to stop the madness, instead of organizing …fucking 10 years ago.
There was a TON of organizing happening 10 years ago. Then Obama got reelected and everybody, except the people trying to do the organizing, went back to watching dancing with the stars
Nobody wanted to listen then, so now we are all getting to enjoy the same hand basket
Oh, and I forgot about the select few who decided that THEIR perspective outranked everybody else’s, and used their petit tyranny to remove some very good willed people from certain organizing spaces
So, now some of us get to at least watch while those select few get hammered by this bullshit first.
Looking at YOU Monica
As someone who has been paying attention and organizing for much longer than that, I will say that a lack of leadership is a legitimate part of the problem. This is just as much a case of the Left selling out to neoliberalism as it is the Right gaining strength. Without unifying leadership, minor groups run the risk of working against each other or more likely wasting their strength pulling in different directions.
A lot of people are mad. A lot of people are tired. A lot of people have lost hope. A lot of people feel betrayed. A lot of people see no path for change. A lot of people want to just be left alone.
To me that’s what this is really about. I’m so tired of having to be so actively(or passively) involved with politics and have the “party” I support constantly drop the ball. It’s so incredibly exhausting putting this much mental wherewithal into people and ideas that are just tossed aside.
I feel like everything is turning to shit so fast and “this is what people wanted” cause they supposedly voted for him; but I feel like the time to really rally and strike isn’t here yet.
It still feels like everyone is getting their bearings and figuring it out. You can see people are starting to plan. It’s clear we can’t just REACT. There needs to be clear plans and action to stop this and prevent it from happening again.
I think a lot of people are very angry, but we need to focus and formulate a proper way to retaliate.
The time for rallying is now, every state had a protest this month on the 5th (50501). There’s another one happening on President’s Day. Attending these shows that people who are fed up are real and are here. I don’t think peaceful protests will necessarily effect change BUT they are a place to gain visibility, meet like minded individuals, and build support groups. It won’t grow if people don’t show up!
I challenge your premise: They are mad. Not all of them, but plenty of people are upset and angry. More to follow the way things are going: The worse things get, the angrier they’ll get.
If you’re not angry enough to even mention it in your daily life, are you really angry?
Who the fuck said they aren’t?
You?
Fuck outta here.
Oh so angry. I’m going to go to work and do my masters bidding tomorrow I’m so angry!
Those guys killed in slave uprisings must have been fucking cool as shit. Imagin how hard it must of been to stand up to these very same bullies, in heart, mind, and spirit, back then.
Humanity has been living in absolute monarchies for like 2000+ years, and they were angry about their life, but most of the times, people don’t rise up against their monarchs.
Ever wondered why?
Now sprinkle a bit of “freedom”, just enough to keep people content, so now the choice is:
Revolt and probably die
Or
“Wait until the next election” (if there even is a next election, most people just hope that there is)
And don’t say “go protest”, think about it: you stop showing up to work and go to a protest, you lose your job, and since most people rent, so they eventually get evicted, now you are on the street, dealing with extreme cold / extreme heat (depending on the season), you are hungry, fascist cops harass you for being homeless. Yea, its easy to romanticize revolution, but just put yourself in the shoes of the average person.
As corrupt as the elections can be, they are the only way to try to change things, that doesn’t involve getting yourself killed (or jailed and tortured).
(If the government actually cancels elections or declares martial law, then maybe we can get a revolution)
I’ve seen people through hard times and through “good times.” Life goes on. This strategy of waiting it out is always the wrong choice and maximizes the overall suffering of everyone. All just so you could have a few more years with a Netflix account.
I again challenge your premise: People are absolutely talking about it on a regular basis. It seems to be that you are living in a bubble. How many people do you even interact with and have open conversations with every day anyhow?
How dare you challenge me. Jk, I’m not like a super social person but I’m glad your experience is different from mine.
Just your premise :P
Lack of organization. We’re many of us individually mad, but there is no organization.
Say what you will but Jan 6th and then some is what we should be doing, but we aren’t.
All I’m doing now is hoarding ammunition and periodically buying more guns because I 1000% believe we’re going to see war soon.
I’m also donating money to charities, helping people in my community that are struggling, and telling fascists to fuck off.
I don’t own a gun and, personally, I find the idea barbaric.
But at this point I acknowledge that it’s time to arm myself. This is how far our society has degenerated.
However, I 100% disagree with Jan 6. That was a bunch of children with absolutely zero understanding of what they were doing. That was an example of how NOT to have a meaningful rebellion against an oppressive system. Those were fools behaving like fools and cheapening the idea of activism. They had no grasp of what they were doing or why. They were the antithesis of a true patriot that wants what is best for their society and goes about achieving that in a responsible, effective manner that inspires people to be the best version of a democratic citizen. They should not be idolized. They are an embarrassment to our nation.
We should be setting a better example. We are shaming this democracy in a way that makes me physically ill. We are acting in a way as to paint us as failures in a historical context to future generations and it is truly shameful. This is our legacy.
How do we set a better example / take the high road but actually make progress though?
Lawsuits and protests are going to do nothing at this point.
