• killeronthecorner@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    I think it’s fair to say that ketamine may be affecting his faculties, but this is dipping it’s toe into “the drugs make him do it!” sanewashing.

    Drugs don’t make people assholes. They were assholes before they took the drugs, and the drugs emphasise what an asshole they are.

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      15 hours ago

      As a very wise person once told me about acid, it doesn’t change you as much as it makes you more like yourself.

      Put an A-hole down the K-hole and guess what comes out the other end?

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        11 hours ago

        Idk acid just makes me giggly and forget what I was saying because I saw a cool pattern on the wall. Don’t think it changes your personality that much

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          On higher doses, it can really break down the wall that makes you YOU into individual bricks. Seeing yourself, your actions, passions, and interpersonal relationships from a third person perspective isn’t something you can come back from without some sort of change.

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          7 hours ago

          Could be the dose, but LSD is far more than just visual. If you take certain meds (I think SSRIs might be one), it can significantly dull the experience as well.

          I’m not sure I would say it personally changed me, but I can 100% understand how that could be possible. LSD is no joke.

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            7 hours ago

            Maybe if i took it solo it would be a different experience, but I’ve only done it in group settings where we’re just having fun so no real introspective thoughts occurred. (Biggest dose was around 300mcg)

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              4 hours ago

              Yeah, I once had similar “just tripping with friends” plans, but this is back when you had no idea about dosage and we each took 2 hits.

              I assure you, “no real introspective thoughts” was not an option that day/night lol… In fact, I remember trying to fight it early on (before just saying fuck it and letting go), and boy did it make me uncomfortable. Probably the most dysphoric I have ever felt. It was like “look at me, I am the captain now.”

              I wouldn’t call it a bad trip per se, but it was certainly difficult.

              Honestly, after reading about some of the similar psychedelics that were floating around at the time, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was DOM or something similar. The trip lasted like 18 hours lol. It was the wild west back then.

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                Ye our trips also lasted about 12 to 14h before it let us sleep. But we also had other stuff and booze to keep the thoughts away

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      1 day ago

      People have been known to change personalities and become like that after serious brain injuries. Not uncommon for such people to become right wing.

      I don’t know much about ketamines effect on the brain…