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I miss forums. Reddit and discord and gb ruined it.
There’s still rss.
There’s still email.
There are still blogs.And there’s gemini.
In México very little News sources use RSS, at most they have Flipboard accounts or Twitter :(
This also applies to information about the government, where most of the politicians and other elements use Twitter :/
True elsewhere – there’s no profit in RSS I guess.
It is still around though and you can RSS-ify some sites.
Blogs never begged for dopamine
The little counter I put on my page certainly did! Got so excited when it reached 100, even though it was mostly me.
But you never made an onlyfans to channel more traffic and then eventually get caught up in a cartel and get owned and sold by a pimp even though on paper it looked as if you were making your own choices.
The “old internet” still exists mostly. People have moved on to other things. You can still use IRC, Usenet, RSS, BBS, Forums… they all exist. They may not be as popular… but a lot of the old web tech is still out there.
If anyone really cares, gopher is still somewhat alive.
“email never throttled you”
Someone forgot about the good ol’ days of spam? Chainmails? Viruses? Here’s an example of a classic virus,
YOU HAVE NOW RECEIVED THE UNIX VIRUS
This virus works on the honor system:
If you’re running a variant of Unix or Linux, please forward thismessage to everyone you know and delete a bunch of your files at random.
They used to make you pay $100/yr for an email address.
Not custom. Just an email address
I can assure you, your email is throttled. You just haven’t noticed.
Absolutely miss that old internet.
It had flaws aplenty, but anyone could pick up a “…for dummies” book and cadge together a website. Plenty of free website generators and hosts, too. All those personal pages, family pages, “Hello World!” pages, personal hobbies and small businesses…. Then of course the newsgroups, freeware apps and tools from generous people filling in the gaps in available software…yeah. It was completely unpolished, wild, and unpredictable…but it was awesome, available, and far more egalitarian.
I do miss it, the zeitgeist anyway. Sure. Modern speeds and frontends are nice, but everyday people are priced out and corralled, monetized and stalked. We’ve become the coppertops of The Matrix; exploited, mined, and willingly, in some cases, enslaved.
There’s more computing power than ever but seemingly fewer services than ever.
Actually, it was probably kind of a boon for us nerds, because cool people would come to us and ask us to make their webpages for them. Now Zuck etc. does it for them…
And it’s not like there was any shortage of dummies that actually did, either!
No, there weren’t. But that wasn’t a problem because they could be avoided, or they were curiosities. Not like today, where social media keeps shoving them in front of you at every opportunity.
Bring back Livejournal. It was free therapy and you could be your messy self.
What kind of pages get indexed?
Pages must be simple in design. Simple HTML, non-commerical sites are preferred. Pages should not use much scripts/css for cosmetic effect.
We used to make our own WEB PAGES!
The new Internet is shitty. Like dirty meth.
It was just the first taste of a sweet poison.
The old internet died when we started gamifying human interaction.
Get rid of up/down votes. Get rid of reputation points. Get rid of Emojis. Get rid of all that shit. That shit has lead to dopamine overload, and the extremism in human interaction both on and offline… cause people don’t just talk to each other anymore. Humans, on the whole, just regurgitate ideas and comments back and forth that previously got high marks, thus getting them high marks. People tend to be afraid to speak unpopular but necessary truths because they are scared of their magic fairy points being reduced by an onslaught of downvotes/dislikes/whatevers, Or god forbid something you said be misconstrued and a whole hate train pile on you because you have 30 downvotes so obviously you are wrong and evil and bad, thus resulting in interaction being skewed ever further towards more and more extremes in content because of the incessant need to fish for that next hit of the gamified reward systems.
Its toxic as fuck.
Human interaction shouldnt be gamified. It should just…exist.
Have an… Errr… Upvote.
You’re right, it also highly goes against a lot of small groups, neurodivergent with different understanding etc.
It’s literally out of control with no corrective.
But yay internet points.
Why no emojis? Personally, I’ve always felt like they were just a better way of expressing a person’s emotion or meaning that’s a bit more than plain text can easily describe.
Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.
… Is what i would like to say, but maybe that only works in smaller communities. I know a YouTuber who is currently getting baselessly harassed by popular assholes and she probably has an insane number of dislikes.
Voting is great though. It helps sort wheat from chaff.
Except it doesnt.
It just reinforces blind group think, no thought or reason. Upvotes don’t make people more right, downvotes don’t make people more wrong. Its just thoughtless highschool cliquey shit, that was intentionally created to manipulate users into conflict to provoke more engagement… Theres a reason this upvote/downvote shit started on ad driven social media… Only you get to do it all hidden behind the anonymity of a button.
it’s not for right and wrong. just a different perspective from sorting by new. unless someone has a better idea. still have to keep a finger on the block button, not just for the terrible and awful stuff, but all that you don’t care about. No omniscient god swooping in to curate the content fairly and truely, and AI is not that.
emojis are the problem? 🥺🥺🥺😭
rss2email is great also… simple concept- run the program as a scheduled task, it checks for any updated css feeds, then sends you an email with the new ones.
I recently set up freshrss and have been digging it. It’s not perfect, but definitely as good as Google reader was.
The Internet was once called “the Wild West” when lack of scrutiny was enabling all kinds of things like rampant copyright infringement and thinly veiled pedophilia (see “lolita”). As in the actual wild west, pioneers were inventing new tools to survive and thrive. Brief periods like this are probably normal before entrenched players - whether they’re railroads or media giants - roll in and lay down an organizational layer that makes it a lot easier for typical people to participate. In doing so they also tell the government how to regulate the new world to make sure their profit models still work. Then they take credit for the whole thing.
…it’s been the frontier of human condition for as long as we’ve wrought civilisation from the wild; always ephemeral; always pollinating, seeding anew, and burgeoning along the fresh meadowlands of social intercourse…
RSS still works pretty well.
As does everything else in the list. It’s just that almost no one uses it, because people don’t mind the not owning in exchange of the content.
No one uses emails?
Mate, the world runs on email.
Maybe for work, and even that is being overtaken in volume by slack, teams and others. Email is for inter-company communication mostly. The volume of imessage, Snapchat, WhatsApp, signal, reddit and Co dwarves email.
Mate, the world runs on
emailExcel spreadsheets.There, FTFY.
It’s just that almost no one uses it, because
peopleeternal September phone users don’t mind the not owning in exchange of the content.What are eternal September phone users?
