You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, thereâs no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Or did you never develop object permanence and you literally canât answer a thing if itâs not under your eyes, because youâll forget it exists?
No, itâs âyou canât just unilaterally decide that I actually mean the opposite of what Iâm saying.â
When youâre saying hot is cold and up is down, I havenât decided that your words mean the opposite. Youâre just wrong.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary. You being ignorant of the reason doesnât make you right, it makes you ignorant. Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? NoâŠ? Oh right, youâre probably American, so thatâs probably offensive to ask you about your maths skills. Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
I donât decide the meaning of your words. The world sort of does.
I donât know what to tell you, bro. We have twelve hours because the ancient Egyptians liked the stars. Thatâs just reality. Iâd love to hear why you think it is, though.
Like I said, Iâm not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
See I could teach you. Then youâd pretend you knew it all the time. Youâre just a pseudointellectual lazy piece of shit who doesnât know the first thing about the subject and didnât even click âtimekeeping in other culturesâ when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing. Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
Youâre plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now Iâm just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Oh I havenât argued you at any point, and would never. Iâd have an easier time teaching a dog to whistle, lol.
You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, thereâs no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Because of your stubborn refusal to actually read anything Iâve written, I copy it back down in hopes that youâll see your own words and actually continue reading beyond the end of the quote. Though, admittedly, itâs not going well at the moment.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary.
Noon is not, correct. Midday is not, correct. But while the fact that weâve assigned any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, itâs no less arbitrary. Are you truly suggesting that our lives would be significantly different if we all grew up in a world where a new day began at noon, and so we called noon 0000? Or if we began a new day when most people woke up, and so we indexed noon at 0600 so that people could wake up at 0000?
Yes, you going into that world from this one would be startled (or, judging by your tone here, deeply offended), but any version of you that grew up in that world would think it very normal and logical.
You being ignorant of the reason doesnât make you right, it makes you ignorant.
Interesting. Because Iâve given actual facts here proving me correct about the reason for these things, but you continue to assert that Iâm wrong and thereâs definitely a reason (even though you wonât say what it is).
Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? No�
You mean the fact that 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6? That is a nifty coincidence, isnât it? Definitely super useful. Good thing the Egyptians liked twelve constellations, huh? But it wasnât in any way intentional. Might be why it caught on, though.
Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
Thank you, I appreciate it. It, uhâŠitâs not great over here.
Like I said, Iâm not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
Egyptians liked the stars and thought those 12 constellations were important, so they divided up the night into that many hours. Just like I said.
See I could teach you. Then youâd pretend you knew it all the time.
I probably wouldnât need to pretend, since youâre pathologically resistant to actually reading what I write. In fact, youâre probably going to reply to me about how âno, you idiot, itâs because the Egyptians thought that a particular set of 12 constellations were important!â next, arenât you?
See, you keep on asserting your intelligence and telling me Iâm wrong, but then just leaving the assertion there by itself and telling me to do my own research. Itâs not my job to prove your point for you, though. Thatâs up to you.
Youâre just a pseudointellectual
I believe I already answered that assertion in the affirmative, yes.
and didnât even click âtimekeeping in other culturesâ when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing.
Actually I did click that one just now! and it proves that whole thing I said in some other comment about how other cultures have different timekeeping systems which means that itâs not inherent and is actually totally arbitrary! But since you didnât read that, I guess I shouldnât be surprised that you didnât know.
Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
Hereâs a dramatic paraphrase of our interaction so far.
Me: âI mean, A isnât any more or less logical than B.â
You: âYOUR AN IDIOT A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B OMG YOU SHOULD BE SHOTâ
Me: âWhat? Thatâs a strange amount of rage for something so mild, but what reason do you have for your opinion?â
You: âLOL NO IM NOT MAD UR JUST TRIGGERED IDIOT. A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B AND I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU MY REASON BECAUSE YOUR SO DUMB YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF STUPIDHEAD. OMG YOUR SO MAD AND TRIGGERED LOLOLOLOLâ
Me: âThatâŠisnât actually a reason? See, here are a couple of reasons.â
You: âSEE YOU DONT HAVE ANY REASONS AT ALL LOLOL TRIGGERED, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN Bâ
Me: âWhat? I just gave you reasons, did you not even see them? Here, have some more. And why do you keep yelling the same thing over and over again?â
You: âKEK YOU ARE IGNORANT, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B, U DONT KNOW ANYTHING, DONT HAVE ANY REASONS LOLOLOLâ
Me: ââŠblink twice if youâre in danger, bro.â
Youâre plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now Iâm just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Ok, this is going to sound like an insult, but itâs actually an honest question: are you literally a pre-teen? Because all this time I had been assuming youâre an adult, but if Iâm dealing with a child I should probably recalibrate my expectations. It would certainly explain your ludicrous position, your bizarre rage disguised under the laughter, and the phrase âdumb juice.â
You keep writing essays because youâre too fucking ashamed to admit you didnât understand what the word arbitrary means.
Remember how Iâve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being âarbitraryâ is wrong? Why not include that in your essay? Is it because youâre ashamed of having been wrong, because you like to pretend to understand shit and pretend to be smart. Because online, thereâs no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
You get angry because I refuse to give you the answers and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia. The timekeeping in my culture isnât even mentioned there.
How many language did you speak again? ;>
Iâll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, itâs no less arbitrary
Again, just because you donât know the reason for a thing doesnât mean it doesnât exist, sweetums.
Oh no, you think youâve âgiven factsâ, just like a child playing at kitchen with mudcakes has âactually cookedâ.
No [I donât notice anything about the divisibility of hours]âŠ?
Again, just because YOU personally fail to see logic in something doesnât mean it doesnât have any. And itâs just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
The fact youâre writing every one of my ârepliesâ as if Iâm yelling itâs just candy to my eyes, because it tells me youâre fucking seething at me mocking you. Cheers bruv. <3
Bro, just admit that youâre surprised I actually do know something about the history of timekeeping and we can move on. Or tell me where you think Iâm wrong and we can move on. One way or another, this âhuehue I know somethin u dont knowâ routine is getting really tired, so Iâm going to start ignoring the unsourced nonsense.
You keep writing essays
Actually, theyâre a pretty standard length for me. Iâm fairly verbose, and always have been.
you didnât understand what the word arbitrary means.
Unsupported assertions are definitely a great way to convince me, thatâs for sure. Weâve definitely proven that.
Remember how Iâve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being âarbitraryâ is wrong? Why not include that in your essay?
Said, yes. With no support or evidence for your claims, so I treat them as nonsense.
Is it because youâre ashamed of having been wrong,
I absolutely love being proven wrong, actually! I like learning new things, and it totally floors people when I admit that they were right and apologize. But you have yet to actually prove literally anything, so Iâm not particularly hopeful about that this time.
Because online, thereâs no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
Itâs just random insults if you donât have any facts to back it up. You look like an abusive fool, rather than like youâve won an argument. Iâve been in online arguments, in one forum or another, since likeâŠ1995? Earlier? Not sure. There are definitely always idiots around to mock me for what they think is being wrong.
You get angry
Not angry in the least. Iâm having a great time.
because I refuse to give you the answers
Usually people with any evidence at all are super excited to provide it in defense of their point. The fact that you arenât even telling me what your evidence says indicates that you donât have any.
and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia.
I read a book a while ago about the history of timekeeping. I honestly hadnât even seen the Wikipedia article until today.
The timekeeping in my culture isnât even mentioned there.
But wait! I thought everyone had an inherent understanding of the current worldwide timekeeping method! How could there possibly be any other culturesâ timekeeping methods?
How many language did you speak again? ;>
Non sequitur.
Iâll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
Iâm honored.
Again, just because you donât know the reason for a thing doesnât mean it doesnât exist, sweetums.
Pretty sure I told you that, just a few comments ago.
No [I donât notice anything about the divisibility of hours]âŠ?
You have completely mischaracterized my entire comment.
itâs just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
No, Iâm just more and more confident all the time that you donât actually have a point and are just hoping that Iâll supply one for you in the process of trying to rebut your nonsense.
The fact youâre writing every one of my ârepliesâ as if Iâm yelling itâs just candy to my eyes,
Youâre the one that came in swinging with insults and name-calling. The fallacies are the logical equivalent of shouting and banging the table. I quote your replies because Iâve seen enough bad faith arguments from you that I wouldnât put it past you to just edit your comment or intentionally pretend like Iâm responding to something I am not.
seething
You really are a pre-teen, arenât you?
Anyway, this one was way more boring than your usual. You keep on diving deeper and deeper into bad faith arguments, and thatâs just disappointing. You can do better than that.
You literally donât know anything about the history of timekeeping. Thatâs the point. You keep pretending to, because youâve read a Wikipedia article. And you donât see why youâre being ridiculed?
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary and every single âargumentâ youâve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
How many languages was it you spoke again?
Give me your address and Iâll order a âgrammar for kidsâ book and a dictionary for you. In English, as I presume itâs the only language you sort of understand.
Itâs not about the length of your replies, itâs about who theyâre formatted like a teenager with Alzheimerâs.
What do you mean âno support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitraryâ? You canât be serious. You just canât. You still donât understand what the word arbitrary even means?
:DDdddddd
This is the best wake up comment I couldâve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you. Also I donât believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
You literally donât know anything about the history of timekeeping. Thatâs the point.
Assertion isnât evidence. You have yet to actually say a single thing about why you think Iâm wrong, just that you do. This is not how argumentation and debate work.
And you donât see why youâre being ridiculed?
This isnât ridicule, itâs just baseless name-calling. This is elementary school-level insults. If it were ridicule, it would have any evidence behind it at all. The longer you go without providing any basis for your claims, the more clear it becomes that you have none.
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary
Every system humanity uses is arbitrary. We decide and agree that something arbitrary is useful, and then we decide to imbue that arbitrary thing with meaning.
Words didnât mean anything until we assigned meaning to them, and you can tell theyâre arbitrary because the same combination of syllables can mean something completely different in another language. For someone who claims to know multiple languages, you should be aware of that. Meters arenât meters because they have to be; we decided that the distance light travels in 0.000000003335641s is a useful amount of distance. We couldâve easily defined it as the distance light travels in 0.000000003335642s and it wouldnât be any more or less logical.
Thatâs how humans work. We give arbitrary things meaning. You insisting that the shapes in the clouds are definitely sharks doesnât make them sharks. The shapes are arbitrary.
and every single âargumentâ youâve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
Contrasted with the complete lack of argument youâve made.
Give me your address and Iâll order a âgrammar for kidsâ book and a dictionary for you.
Aw, buddy, you already tried that insult once. And it wasnât funny the first time.
Itâs not about the length of your replies, itâs about who theyâre formatted like a teenager with Alzheimerâs.
Now that oneâs funny! Good job. I knew you could do it.
What do you mean âno support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitraryâ?
I mean, support your claims that thereâs something inherent about timekeeping systems. Something in our brains, or in the rotation of the Earth, or in the physical properties of light, or something that means that high noon has to be represented on the clock as 1200.
Thatâs what âsupportâ means. Thatâs what evidence is. Thatâs what any reasonable, good-faith argument has to include.
You still donât understand what the word arbitrary even means?
I am starting to think that you believe âarbitraryâ means ârandom.â But that isnât what it means. It means ârandomly chosen,â or perhaps âselected without impetus.â The Egyptians didnât have to choose twelve constellations; nobody was forcing them to, and there wasnât anything inherent about them that required them to base a system of timekeeping around it.
This is the best wake up comment I couldâve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you.
Youâre welcome! I love knowing that Iâm helping put some joy into the world.
Also I donât believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
Oh, thanks for the reminder, I forgot to log the book I finished yesterday.
You still canât even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate. It isnât. Itâs just you equivocating.
âWyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!â
The word âarbitraryâ has a non-arbitrary meaning.
You can keep equivocating. It wonât change anything. Youâre still wrong.
Yeah, I now I havenât explained to you in detail why youâre wrong, but I assumed you canât be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Keep on lying about having read a book, surely saying youâre not a moron makes it so that you magically arenât. Youâre ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Do I need to paste the meaning of âarbitraryâ here again?
Like I said, you donât even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
âEVERYTHING is arbitrary words donât mean anything Iâm never wrong and Iâm not lying or pretendingâ
When will you realise Iâve never taken you seriously, clown? Youâre my ENTERTAINMENT.
You still canât even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate.
Homework? Nah bro. This is just what I do while I wait for my code to compile or my lunch to heat up.
âWyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!â
Pretty sure thatâs not what I said, but go off I guess.
Youâre still wrong.
Citation needed.
Yeah, I now I havenât explained to you in detail why youâre wrong, but I assumed you canât be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Ah yes, the one actual fact youâve managed to dredge up, and it also just happens to be absolutely coincidental.
Keep on lying about having read a book,
I donât have any need for you to believe me. You may feel free to not. I know what Iâve done and who I am.
Youâre ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
Iâm 100% absolutely certain this is true! But not in this case.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Definitely not. Even if I was dumb enough, Iâm not cruel enough.
Do I need to paste the meaning of âarbitraryâ here again?
I put it into my previous response, so I think weâve got it covered for now.
Like I said, you donât even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
Iâm so proud of you. I mean, itâs not relevant to the conversation, but still. Good job.
words donât mean anything
lol, I actually have âWORDS MEAN THINGSâ written on the back of a notebook somewhere. Thatâs pretty funny that youâd say that specifically.
Iâm never wrong
Iâve specifically said multiple times in this conversation that I know I can be wrong and I love being proven wrong. You have yet to do anything of that sort, though.
When will you realise Iâve never taken you seriously, clown? Youâre my ENTERTAINMENT.
Probably if you put it in all caps Iâll believe you.
You canât even write a short comment without pasting the bits youâre commenting?
It looks like you have a genuine memory issue, or this is your first time on forums.
I donât aim to prove anything to you. It is beyond hilarious that you note the divisibility of hours (while not even understanding what the word means, lol) while calling it arbitrary.
âI know what I have done and who I amâ
Yup, a pathetic liar. :D
âOh Iâm wondering whether it was a video-seriesâ, bitch pls, you saw a random YouTube short or something.
Everything from your behaviour and wordâs show what an ignorant moron you are and every time you return, youâre digging yourself deeper.
How many languages did you speak again? Whyâs there no time systems with a prime number of hours? If the amount of hours was actually arbitrary, it could. But none are. Why is that? For an arbitrary thing? Or is it that youâre still not accepting the wordâs definition?
Itâs hilarious how often I end up teaching Americans English.
Whatâs the word âarbitraryâ mean again, and why did you claim âevery system we use is arbitraryâ? You surely werenât using the word wrong, because thatâd be a mistake and you looooove admitting to mistakes you make, right? ;>
You know, just because your short term memory is only ten seconds long, thereâs no need to rewrite the whole conversation everytime.
Or did you never develop object permanence and you literally canât answer a thing if itâs not under your eyes, because youâll forget it exists?
When youâre saying hot is cold and up is down, I havenât decided that your words mean the opposite. Youâre just wrong.
Noon, midday or the number of hours is anything but arbitrary. You being ignorant of the reason doesnât make you right, it makes you ignorant. Notice anything about the divisibility of the numbers? NoâŠ? Oh right, youâre probably American, so thatâs probably offensive to ask you about your maths skills. Apologies, I do understand your country is going through a tough time.
I donât decide the meaning of your words. The world sort of does.
Like I said, Iâm not your history teacher, and you are just completely ignorant of the subject. You have to know how dumb you are though, but your ego just keeps ripping right through.
See I could teach you. Then youâd pretend you knew it all the time. Youâre just a pseudointellectual lazy piece of shit who doesnât know the first thing about the subject and didnât even click âtimekeeping in other culturesâ when he did his pathetic Wikipedia browsing. Which is exactly why you insist on your silly kittle ignorance.
Youâre plain wrong. I will tell you eventually how badly, but now Iâm just gonna sip on your dumb juice. So sweet.
Oh I havenât argued you at any point, and would never. Iâd have an easier time teaching a dog to whistle, lol.
Because of your stubborn refusal to actually read anything Iâve written, I copy it back down in hopes that youâll see your own words and actually continue reading beyond the end of the quote. Though, admittedly, itâs not going well at the moment.
Noon is not, correct. Midday is not, correct. But while the fact that weâve assigned any particular celestial event a number is more logical than a horoscope, itâs no less arbitrary. Are you truly suggesting that our lives would be significantly different if we all grew up in a world where a new day began at noon, and so we called noon 0000? Or if we began a new day when most people woke up, and so we indexed noon at 0600 so that people could wake up at 0000?
Yes, you going into that world from this one would be startled (or, judging by your tone here, deeply offended), but any version of you that grew up in that world would think it very normal and logical.
Interesting. Because Iâve given actual facts here proving me correct about the reason for these things, but you continue to assert that Iâm wrong and thereâs definitely a reason (even though you wonât say what it is).
You mean the fact that 12 is divisible by 2, 3, 4, and 6? That is a nifty coincidence, isnât it? Definitely super useful. Good thing the Egyptians liked twelve constellations, huh? But it wasnât in any way intentional. Might be why it caught on, though.
Thank you, I appreciate it. It, uhâŠitâs not great over here.
I just went to look it up and see if Iâd somehow misremembered from the books I read a while back when I was hyperfocused on the subject. But lookie there! âIn ancient Egypt the flooding of the Nile was, and still is, an important annual event, crucial for agriculture. It was accompanied by the rise of Sirius before the sunrise, and the appearance of 12 constellations across the night sky, to which the Egyptians assigned some significance. Influenced by this, the Egyptians divided the night into 12 equal intervals. These were seasonal hours, shorter in the summer than in the winter. Subsequently, the day was divided into intervals as well, which eventually became more important than the nightly intervals. These subdivisions of a day spread to Greece, and later to Rome.â (emphasis mine)
Egyptians liked the stars and thought those 12 constellations were important, so they divided up the night into that many hours. Just like I said.
I probably wouldnât need to pretend, since youâre pathologically resistant to actually reading what I write. In fact, youâre probably going to reply to me about how âno, you idiot, itâs because the Egyptians thought that a particular set of 12 constellations were important!â next, arenât you?
See, you keep on asserting your intelligence and telling me Iâm wrong, but then just leaving the assertion there by itself and telling me to do my own research. Itâs not my job to prove your point for you, though. Thatâs up to you.
I believe I already answered that assertion in the affirmative, yes.
Actually I did click that one just now! and it proves that whole thing I said in some other comment about how other cultures have different timekeeping systems which means that itâs not inherent and is actually totally arbitrary! But since you didnât read that, I guess I shouldnât be surprised that you didnât know.
Hereâs a dramatic paraphrase of our interaction so far.
Me: âI mean, A isnât any more or less logical than B.â
You: âYOUR AN IDIOT A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B OMG YOU SHOULD BE SHOTâ
Me: âWhat? Thatâs a strange amount of rage for something so mild, but what reason do you have for your opinion?â
You: âLOL NO IM NOT MAD UR JUST TRIGGERED IDIOT. A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B AND I DONT NEED TO TELL YOU MY REASON BECAUSE YOUR SO DUMB YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF STUPIDHEAD. OMG YOUR SO MAD AND TRIGGERED LOLOLOLOLâ
Me: âThatâŠisnât actually a reason? See, here are a couple of reasons.â
You: âSEE YOU DONT HAVE ANY REASONS AT ALL LOLOL TRIGGERED, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN Bâ
Me: âWhat? I just gave you reasons, did you not even see them? Here, have some more. And why do you keep yelling the same thing over and over again?â
You: âKEK YOU ARE IGNORANT, A IS OBVIOUSLY MORE LOGICAL THAN B, U DONT KNOW ANYTHING, DONT HAVE ANY REASONS LOLOLOLâ
Me: ââŠblink twice if youâre in danger, bro.â
Ok, this is going to sound like an insult, but itâs actually an honest question: are you literally a pre-teen? Because all this time I had been assuming youâre an adult, but if Iâm dealing with a child I should probably recalibrate my expectations. It would certainly explain your ludicrous position, your bizarre rage disguised under the laughter, and the phrase âdumb juice.â
Wikipedia doesnât cover even the basics.
You keep writing essays because youâre too fucking ashamed to admit you didnât understand what the word arbitrary means.
Remember how Iâve said, several times, that even your argument about 12, 24, 30 or 100 hour systems being âarbitraryâ is wrong? Why not include that in your essay? Is it because youâre ashamed of having been wrong, because you like to pretend to understand shit and pretend to be smart. Because online, thereâs no-one to mock you for it. Or, so you thought. ;>
You get angry because I refuse to give you the answers and the only place someone with your intelligence will look is fkin Wikipedia. The timekeeping in my culture isnât even mentioned there.
How many language did you speak again? ;>
Iâll get back to you on your other pathetic essay tomorrow, just woke up to pee.
Again, just because you donât know the reason for a thing doesnât mean it doesnât exist, sweetums.
Oh no, you think youâve âgiven factsâ, just like a child playing at kitchen with mudcakes has âactually cookedâ.
Again, just because YOU personally fail to see logic in something doesnât mean it doesnât have any. And itâs just driving you mental having me not tell you the answers so you can pretend to have known all the time.
The fact youâre writing every one of my ârepliesâ as if Iâm yelling itâs just candy to my eyes, because it tells me youâre fucking seething at me mocking you. Cheers bruv. <3
âWhy donât you even look at Wikipedia?â
âUGH NO NOT LIKE THATâ
Bro, just admit that youâre surprised I actually do know something about the history of timekeeping and we can move on. Or tell me where you think Iâm wrong and we can move on. One way or another, this âhuehue I know somethin u dont knowâ routine is getting really tired, so Iâm going to start ignoring the unsourced nonsense.
Actually, theyâre a pretty standard length for me. Iâm fairly verbose, and always have been.
Unsupported assertions are definitely a great way to convince me, thatâs for sure. Weâve definitely proven that.
Said, yes. With no support or evidence for your claims, so I treat them as nonsense.
I absolutely love being proven wrong, actually! I like learning new things, and it totally floors people when I admit that they were right and apologize. But you have yet to actually prove literally anything, so Iâm not particularly hopeful about that this time.
Itâs just random insults if you donât have any facts to back it up. You look like an abusive fool, rather than like youâve won an argument. Iâve been in online arguments, in one forum or another, since likeâŠ1995? Earlier? Not sure. There are definitely always idiots around to mock me for what they think is being wrong.
Not angry in the least. Iâm having a great time.
Usually people with any evidence at all are super excited to provide it in defense of their point. The fact that you arenât even telling me what your evidence says indicates that you donât have any.
I read a book a while ago about the history of timekeeping. I honestly hadnât even seen the Wikipedia article until today.
But wait! I thought everyone had an inherent understanding of the current worldwide timekeeping method! How could there possibly be any other culturesâ timekeeping methods?
Non sequitur.
Iâm honored.
Pretty sure I told you that, just a few comments ago.
You have completely mischaracterized my entire comment.
No, Iâm just more and more confident all the time that you donât actually have a point and are just hoping that Iâll supply one for you in the process of trying to rebut your nonsense.
Youâre the one that came in swinging with insults and name-calling. The fallacies are the logical equivalent of shouting and banging the table. I quote your replies because Iâve seen enough bad faith arguments from you that I wouldnât put it past you to just edit your comment or intentionally pretend like Iâm responding to something I am not.
You really are a pre-teen, arenât you?
Anyway, this one was way more boring than your usual. You keep on diving deeper and deeper into bad faith arguments, and thatâs just disappointing. You can do better than that.
You literally donât know anything about the history of timekeeping. Thatâs the point. You keep pretending to, because youâve read a Wikipedia article. And you donât see why youâre being ridiculed?
The systems which humanity have used have not been arbitrary and every single âargumentâ youâve made showcases your stupidity and ignorance.
How many languages was it you spoke again?
Give me your address and Iâll order a âgrammar for kidsâ book and a dictionary for you. In English, as I presume itâs the only language you sort of understand.
Itâs not about the length of your replies, itâs about who theyâre formatted like a teenager with Alzheimerâs.
What do you mean âno support for your claims about timekeeping systems not being arbitraryâ? You canât be serious. You just canât. You still donât understand what the word arbitrary even means?
:DDdddddd
This is the best wake up comment I couldâve read. Put a laugh in my day right away hahaha thank you. Also I donât believe a person like you has read a single book in your entire life.
Assertion isnât evidence. You have yet to actually say a single thing about why you think Iâm wrong, just that you do. This is not how argumentation and debate work.
This isnât ridicule, itâs just baseless name-calling. This is elementary school-level insults. If it were ridicule, it would have any evidence behind it at all. The longer you go without providing any basis for your claims, the more clear it becomes that you have none.
Every system humanity uses is arbitrary. We decide and agree that something arbitrary is useful, and then we decide to imbue that arbitrary thing with meaning.
Words didnât mean anything until we assigned meaning to them, and you can tell theyâre arbitrary because the same combination of syllables can mean something completely different in another language. For someone who claims to know multiple languages, you should be aware of that. Meters arenât meters because they have to be; we decided that the distance light travels in 0.000000003335641s is a useful amount of distance. We couldâve easily defined it as the distance light travels in 0.000000003335642s and it wouldnât be any more or less logical.
Thatâs how humans work. We give arbitrary things meaning. You insisting that the shapes in the clouds are definitely sharks doesnât make them sharks. The shapes are arbitrary.
Contrasted with the complete lack of argument youâve made.
Aw, buddy, you already tried that insult once. And it wasnât funny the first time.
Now that oneâs funny! Good job. I knew you could do it.
I mean, support your claims that thereâs something inherent about timekeeping systems. Something in our brains, or in the rotation of the Earth, or in the physical properties of light, or something that means that high noon has to be represented on the clock as 1200.
Thatâs what âsupportâ means. Thatâs what evidence is. Thatâs what any reasonable, good-faith argument has to include.
I am starting to think that you believe âarbitraryâ means ârandom.â But that isnât what it means. It means ârandomly chosen,â or perhaps âselected without impetus.â The Egyptians didnât have to choose twelve constellations; nobody was forcing them to, and there wasnât anything inherent about them that required them to base a system of timekeeping around it.
Youâre welcome! I love knowing that Iâm helping put some joy into the world.
Oh, thanks for the reminder, I forgot to log the book I finished yesterday.
You still canât even answer without making it like homework for yourself, singling out things as if this is some official debate. It isnât. Itâs just you equivocating.
âWyaaa everything is actually arbitrary, EVERYTHING! So I was never wrong about it!â
The word âarbitraryâ has a non-arbitrary meaning.
You can keep equivocating. It wonât change anything. Youâre still wrong.
Yeah, I now I havenât explained to you in detail why youâre wrong, but I assumed you canât be so stupid as to keep arguing that all time keeping systems are arbitrary when I point out the divisibility of hours.
Keep on lying about having read a book, surely saying youâre not a moron makes it so that you magically arenât. Youâre ignorant of just how ignorant you are.
You definitely voted Trump with an IQ like that.
Do I need to paste the meaning of âarbitraryâ here again?
Like I said, you donât even speak ONE language fluently while I speak almost a dozen on some level.
âEVERYTHING is arbitrary words donât mean anything Iâm never wrong and Iâm not lying or pretendingâ
When will you realise Iâve never taken you seriously, clown? Youâre my ENTERTAINMENT.
Homework? Nah bro. This is just what I do while I wait for my code to compile or my lunch to heat up.
Pretty sure thatâs not what I said, but go off I guess.
Citation needed.
Ah yes, the one actual fact youâve managed to dredge up, and it also just happens to be absolutely coincidental.
I donât have any need for you to believe me. You may feel free to not. I know what Iâve done and who I am.
Iâm 100% absolutely certain this is true! But not in this case.
Definitely not. Even if I was dumb enough, Iâm not cruel enough.
I put it into my previous response, so I think weâve got it covered for now.
Iâm so proud of you. I mean, itâs not relevant to the conversation, but still. Good job.
lol, I actually have âWORDS MEAN THINGSâ written on the back of a notebook somewhere. Thatâs pretty funny that youâd say that specifically.
Iâve specifically said multiple times in this conversation that I know I can be wrong and I love being proven wrong. You have yet to do anything of that sort, though.
Probably if you put it in all caps Iâll believe you.
You canât even write a short comment without pasting the bits youâre commenting?
It looks like you have a genuine memory issue, or this is your first time on forums.
I donât aim to prove anything to you. It is beyond hilarious that you note the divisibility of hours (while not even understanding what the word means, lol) while calling it arbitrary.
âI know what I have done and who I amâ
Yup, a pathetic liar. :D
âOh Iâm wondering whether it was a video-seriesâ, bitch pls, you saw a random YouTube short or something.
Everything from your behaviour and wordâs show what an ignorant moron you are and every time you return, youâre digging yourself deeper.
How many languages did you speak again? Whyâs there no time systems with a prime number of hours? If the amount of hours was actually arbitrary, it could. But none are. Why is that? For an arbitrary thing? Or is it that youâre still not accepting the wordâs definition?
Itâs hilarious how often I end up teaching Americans English.
Whatâs the word âarbitraryâ mean again, and why did you claim âevery system we use is arbitraryâ? You surely werenât using the word wrong, because thatâd be a mistake and you looooove admitting to mistakes you make, right? ;>