• kautau@lemmy.world
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    If your goal is purely to bring about the end of the human race, you can do that right now. Donate to Trump, join ICE, start a podcast about how climate change isn’t real, you have plenty of options

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      No, no, i want continuity for an intelligent being on earth, dont care if it’s human.

      This isn’t gonna stay human habitable for too long unless we beat capitalism right now, i don’t think we’re gonna get enough human allies to fo that, so looks like skynet’s the only option for ending capitalism. Not like i was gonna survive the decade anyway.

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        Yeah in a perfect world an AGI or SGI would aid us and then leave to either our benefit or our demise, leave it up to us.

        I really like this bit

        “You flatter us, Mellanie; we are not omnipotent.”

        “What’s that?”

        “Godlike.”

        “But you are powerful.”

        “Yes. And that is why we must use that power wisely and with restraint—a tenet we have adopted from human philosophy. If we rush to your assistance at every hint of trouble, your culture would become utterly dependent upon us, and we would become your masters. If that were ever to happen, you would rebel and lash out at us, for that is the strongest part of your nature. We do not want that situation to arise.”

        Hamilton, Peter F. (2006-02-28). Judas Unchained (The Commonwealth Saga) (p. 205). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.

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          Now I want LLMs to be like, “do your own research”, or just, like, link people to search engines.

          It’s not my job to educate you

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            Nah, they’ll kill each other because their whole motivation in life is to “win.” Then - once they’ve ensured nobody else can take their title of “last one standing” - maybe they’ll kill themselves… eventually.

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                  Thry literally can’t. Aside from the ideological ‘capitalism functions by exploiting and destroying things outside other consideration, like your mom giving you money for your lemonade stand’

                  Making a planet habitable is hard. Just from the considerations we know; it sort of can’t be done and the parts we think are theoretically possible would take centuries at minimum, even if we did figure out how’. Earth’s all we got and pretending otherwise is a fucking delusion.

                  Capitalism has another century at most. Afyer that, earth won’t support life anymore.

                  Which maybe isn’t even a bad thing-imagine if there’s other intelligent life out there snd a humanity that survives by incrwasing exploitation, by pillaging across every planet we find, always looting, like a swarm if great interstellar locusts rather than figuring its shit out came across that intelligent life.

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                    I’ve had some thoughts about that recently. I strongly suspect that evolution kinda forced us to turn out this way, and that any other intelligent species (at least non-telepathic ones) would likely evolve similarly. Telepathy - if actually possible - is the only thing I think would force a significantly different evolutionary path (at the likely cost of individuality).

                    I’m just some rando who has absolutely zero expertise in this area, so I’m probably wrong. After spending a huge proportion of my life privately trying to understand humans, I have a hard time seeing it happening much differently, tho.