Yeah in a perfect world an AGI or SGI would aid us and then leave to either our benefit or our demise, leave it up to us.
I really like this bit
“You flatter us, Mellanie; we are not omnipotent.”
“What’s that?”
“Godlike.”
“But you are powerful.”
“Yes. And that is why we must use that power wisely and with restraint—a tenet we have adopted from human philosophy. If we rush to your assistance at every hint of trouble, your culture would become utterly dependent upon us, and we would become your masters. If that were ever to happen, you would rebel and lash out at us, for that is the strongest part of your nature. We do not want that situation to arise.”
Hamilton, Peter F. (2006-02-28). Judas Unchained (The Commonwealth Saga) (p. 205). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Nah, they’ll kill each other because their whole motivation in life is to “win.” Then - once they’ve ensured nobody else can take their title of “last one standing” - maybe they’ll kill themselves… eventually.
Thry literally can’t. Aside from the ideological ‘capitalism functions by exploiting and destroying things outside other consideration, like your mom giving you money for your lemonade stand’
Making a planet habitable is hard. Just from the considerations we know; it sort of can’t be done and the parts we think are theoretically possible would take centuries at minimum, even if we did figure out how’. Earth’s all we got and pretending otherwise is a fucking delusion.
Capitalism has another century at most. Afyer that, earth won’t support life anymore.
Which maybe isn’t even a bad thing-imagine if there’s other intelligent life out there snd a humanity that survives by incrwasing exploitation, by pillaging across every planet we find, always looting, like a swarm if great interstellar locusts rather than figuring its shit out came across that intelligent life.
I’ve had some thoughts about that recently. I strongly suspect that evolution kinda forced us to turn out this way, and that any other intelligent species (at least non-telepathic ones) would likely evolve similarly. Telepathy - if actually possible - is the only thing I think would force a significantly different evolutionary path (at the likely cost of individuality).
I’m just some rando who has absolutely zero expertise in this area, so I’m probably wrong. After spending a huge proportion of my life privately trying to understand humans, I have a hard time seeing it happening much differently, tho.
Dude, it’s not fucking evolution. We’re not naturally like this. You’re trying to understand humans, but its like the ‘alpha wolf’ thing.
This is the behavior capitalism authoritarianism and a life that knows nothing but bondage creates in humans. Break that, and you get different behavior.
Once fear is learned, insecurity and bullying are inevitable follow-ons for too many that create the overcompensating aggressive types, and the eager-to-please ass-kissers who learn to conform to survive & convince themselves it’s “the way.” You’d have to somehow eliminate all that, which is all but impossible, IMHO.
Yeah in a perfect world an AGI or SGI would aid us and then leave to either our benefit or our demise, leave it up to us.
I really like this bit
Hamilton, Peter F. (2006-02-28). Judas Unchained (The Commonwealth Saga) (p. 205). Random House Publishing Group. Kindle Edition.
Now I want LLMs to be like, “do your own research”, or just, like, link people to search engines.
I meant, like, id ratger be killed by skynet rhan fascists or billionaires who will then immediately kill themselves
Nah, they’ll kill each other because their whole motivation in life is to “win.” Then - once they’ve ensured nobody else can take their title of “last one standing” - maybe they’ll kill themselves… eventually.
They’re going to destroy the earth. Kill themselves. They can’t run somewhere else.
SpaceX & Blue Origin (Musk & Bezos) sure are trying to change that.
Thry literally can’t. Aside from the ideological ‘capitalism functions by exploiting and destroying things outside other consideration, like your mom giving you money for your lemonade stand’
Making a planet habitable is hard. Just from the considerations we know; it sort of can’t be done and the parts we think are theoretically possible would take centuries at minimum, even if we did figure out how’. Earth’s all we got and pretending otherwise is a fucking delusion.
Capitalism has another century at most. Afyer that, earth won’t support life anymore.
Which maybe isn’t even a bad thing-imagine if there’s other intelligent life out there snd a humanity that survives by incrwasing exploitation, by pillaging across every planet we find, always looting, like a swarm if great interstellar locusts rather than figuring its shit out came across that intelligent life.
I’ve had some thoughts about that recently. I strongly suspect that evolution kinda forced us to turn out this way, and that any other intelligent species (at least non-telepathic ones) would likely evolve similarly. Telepathy - if actually possible - is the only thing I think would force a significantly different evolutionary path (at the likely cost of individuality).
I’m just some rando who has absolutely zero expertise in this area, so I’m probably wrong. After spending a huge proportion of my life privately trying to understand humans, I have a hard time seeing it happening much differently, tho.
Dude, it’s not fucking evolution. We’re not naturally like this. You’re trying to understand humans, but its like the ‘alpha wolf’ thing.
This is the behavior capitalism authoritarianism and a life that knows nothing but bondage creates in humans. Break that, and you get different behavior.
Once fear is learned, insecurity and bullying are inevitable follow-ons for too many that create the overcompensating aggressive types, and the eager-to-please ass-kissers who learn to conform to survive & convince themselves it’s “the way.” You’d have to somehow eliminate all that, which is all but impossible, IMHO.