• sexy_peach@feddit.org
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    Europe has gangs and guns and whatnot. But people have more to lose I think. Something like that. Better education maybe?

    Could be way better here as well

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      Hardened criminals have access to firearms but they tend to be expensive and difficult enough to get a hold of that you don’t waste them on holding up a 7-11.

      But angry children and adults who just want to hurt people generally don’t.

      It is why gun control works. It isn’t about getting rid of ALL guns. It is about reducing their number so that people don’t realize a year later that five of their ar-15s are missing

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        eh… in my country firearms are illegal, yet somewhat available. heavy explosives/fireworks and WW2 grenades on the other hand… plentiful

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          The above chap hit the nail on the head in terms of the UK.

          Sure, hardcore criminals can get their hands on a gun, but the sort of people who want to cause trouble at a school certainly don’t.

          I went to one of the worst schools in the country and while some of our students did occasionally murder people out in their private lives (I lived in the biggest shit hole in the country - the government even said so), in the school itself the worst thing I ever saw was a pupil throwing a chair at a teacher. And that was incredibly rare and shocking.

          A student did arson one of the maths rooms too but that was over the weekend when nobody was there. They really hated that teacher haha. We had to do the rest of the year’s maths lessons in the Hall. So weird.

          But ya, that’s all the extreme cases, and they’re nowhere remotely near “gun” territory. That’s just insanity. I never felt unsafe in a school.

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      Every country have criminals and guns. The difference is how available they are to the general public. And what type of guns.

      Anyone in the US that isn’t a convicted felon can buy a handgun as soon as they turn 21. And there are very few laws on how you’re required to store them.

      Compared to Europe where it’s incredibly rare for an average citizen to have access to a handgun.

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      More chill, probably.

      Unchecked capitalism of this degree is a stressful world to live in and it drives people insane. Fear and hate not only breeds mass shooters, it makes your random Joe shoot PoCs, delivery guys or really everyone stepping on their lawn. And it’s not racism or some other kind of hatred alone. It’s a general fear that EVERYTHING entering your comfort zone is there to fuck you over. And in the US they aren’t totally wrong, because many things we find normal in Europe, like affordable healthcare, insurance, education, etc - are traps constructed to drink you empty, not to say about how many real scams flourish there. They are in a fight or flight mode like 24/7, so it’s no wonder they shoot on sight and cheer to bigotry.

      Meme/anecdote: many european listeners of Cool Zone Media podcasts were confused, while visiting US of how many advertisements to buy gold deposits were in automatic ads while there, and how agressive they were. In a sense, gold investments is a panic button you press when you gamble on everything else going down. And this particular scam, the popularity of crypto, and the power of rabid christian sects kinda says a lot about how secure regular folks feel.

      I’ve never been to the US, so it’s all built on assumptions and hearsay.