I came here around the time the rif app shut down, and the general vibe I get from this place is much more negative than when I joined. Is Lemmy growing more toxic or is it just my imagination?
While Lemmy might be getting a larger variety of personalities, some of them being jerks, I still find it a far more pleasant place to be than reddit.
Yea the shitposting has steadily increased. That is probably to be expected on a platform that is also steadily increasing.
However please don’t let the trolls think they turn this into the failure that is now Reddit.
Instead just call out the bullshit for what it is and carry on.
Excuse me?! Are you saying I’m negative?! Are you trying to start a fight with me, bro?! I am THE, I mean THE most positive, fun and likeable person on THE internet, bro. THE.
Idk, world events got me raging nonstop and I’m sure I’m not the only one. But I’m trying to reset.
I think part of it at least is reaching a critical mass.
Lemmy was definitely a collection of relatively like-minded geeks at the start. Even when we disagreed on issues, we all agreed that we needed to work together to make the community grow.
Now that it’s grown to a respectable size, there are more dissenting opinions as well as less tolerance for dissent; and more to the point, there is space for absolutely vile content that used to get choked out. Now to stop this sort of thing, the ‘old-timers’ are more likely to say "shut the fuck up, sit the fuck down, and behave!!!’ before they can get a solid foot hold.
Meanwhile, the worst of those people are feeling both entitled and persecuted, and shouting their garbage louder than ever.
This happens everywhere that gets to a certain size. I remember when reddit stopped feeling like a secret community and more like a warehouse.
Of course, there are other reasons that people have mentioned below: The world is tired, worn out, and PISSED OFF at the half that disagree with them. The president of the United States has broken every rule of diplomacy, grace, and civility that people tended to follow in social life. Social Media has made it far easier (too easy) to dehumanize people and turn them into a one-dimensional pastiche of their posted opinions.
And we’re facing the destruction of the planet, genocide, and the global resurrection of fascism.
The world is getting worse, I’m afraid. I really wish it wasn’t true and I spent a lot of time emphasizing the good to my mom before she died; but honestly, it’s getting worse.
Well said, thank you.
It seems hostility is the norm across most social media.
It’s not a Lemmy thing. People (at least here in the States) are feeling anxious and defeated about the state of the world. That shit makes people irritable. Irritable people are prone to lashing out at anything that trips over their last nerve.
My wife works for a nonprofit that focuses on providing services to families with children who have emotional or intellectual needs. She told me she’s witnessed more meltdowns from parents these last 6 months or so than she’s seen in her 15+ years in the field.
Exactly, it’s not just lemmy, and it’s not just the US either.
Essentially it’s late stage capitalism, the root of all our recent discontent in the past 30ish years. Enshittification of everything…
The Americans are getting hostile… And I can’t blame 'em.
I feel like it’s steadily increased over the last 6 months or so, but it’s hard to really say. And it’s still pretty tame.
No, fuck you
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Jarcasm?
Lately? Were you not here during elections when a bunch of kids were accusing everyone of supporting genocide?
“Republicans are fascist”
“I know. That’s why I’m voting Democrat.”
“Democrats aren’t real leftists”
“I’m aware but this isn’t the time for purity politics.”
“Democrats support genocide.”
“And Republicans don’t?”
“Both sides are equally bad so voting is dumb. Don’t vote.”
“Listen, I’ve got friends and family with skin in this game. Both parties fucking suck but you know what really sucks? Having a fucking fascist dimwit who thinks your cousin is subhuman because she was assigned male at birth as your president.”
“So you support genocide? Typical libshit.”
“Ok, then what is your alternative?”
“You would know what it is if you read this dry, arcane horse shit about the reification of contemporary autonomous groups in Third World popular movements.”
Nailed it! That’s damn near a perfect representation of ever conversation with them.
They still are but I’ve learned to love the block list and use it judiciously with people who go beyond good faith arguments of any sort.
That’s most of the people here in political conversations.
I think it’s still like that, actually.
It’s actually quite a bit more tame than it once was.
Yup, lost of people here accusing others of being “genocide apologists” for expressing even the slightest approval or agreement with Harris or Biden on anything. Yet, somehow, they don’t seem to want to criticize the current administration, blaming everything on the liberals as if they’re the ones solely responsible for this mess. Curious, isn’t it.
Not that I’ve noticed, but the whole world is growing more toxic as far-right ideology becomes more and more accepted everywhere, so I wouldn’t be surprised.
It’s not that hard to be a good person. I don’t care if you’ve banned me from your community, if your community exists to spread hate i’m going to do everything in my power to disrupt and derail your community. We’re at the stage in humanity where theres no longer any excuse to justify anything less than being a good person.
If you are not going out of your way to improve everyones lives, you are the problem and should just die. Theres way too many people just like you who think the world is just going to improve so we dont need to out the nazis and racists and sexists. Nah fuck that, i see a nazi and im going to harrass them until they die, hopefully by their own hand.
Yes, blocking posts from .ml and dbzer0 helped. Same goes for just liberally blocking anybody, who starts screaming instead of participating nicely.
I’ve been considering blocking .world, as some of the mods are behaving like power tripping reddit mods. But it’s the biggest instance and without it I wouldn’t have any content.
I’m still here at .world because every time I think I’ve identified a better instance to go to where people seem to like it, I see someone else who recommends blocking it.
I definitely see the appeal of (and need for) blocking individuals, but I think that instances are too big and varied to neatly paint everyone with the same brush.
Well im up to 30 user blocks and not long ago someone asked people how many they blocked and it was at about a dozen and 6 of those are alts of one user (same name with different instances). So its closer to go from like 7 to 24. So like in just a few weeks. Maybe over a month or so but not many months I have tripled my blocking of people (I block communities mostly do to it being something I am just not interested at all as opposed to the community is horrible). So take that info as you like.
