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      I always encourage downcoting abf blocking Ai slop comics.

      This one is probably AI because the cat book randomly changes in one panel

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    Violence is an answer, but the thing is that violence alone is a stupid answer as per history. Serbia did not have a good time when a Serbian national shot Franz Ferdinand. The assassination of the czar did far less to stop the czarist regime than an international women’s day protest did (and yes, that protest evolved to violence, but it didn’t start there). Before John Brown can be effective you need The Abolitionist making people oppose slavery so that there are large portions of the public who see it as “man risks life to free fellow humans from life of incredible cruelty” rather than “schizophrenic Calvinist attacks rich people with sword, steals property”

    Violence is the final fallback for when discussion fails, but you need to be certain you have a chance whenever you escalate in ways that can turn off the average person, otherwise you just make the state’s job of justifying its overwhelming violence against you easier.

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    Tolerance of intolerance

    by Karl Popper

    “[…] But we should claim the right to suppress them [intolerant ideologies] if necessary even by force; for it may easily turn out that they are not prepared to meet us on the level of rational argument, but begin by denouncing all argument; they may forbid their followers to listen to rational argument, because it is deceptive, and teach them to answer arguments by the use of their fists or pistols.”

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

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    Yes, I remember when violence built the Library of Alexandria, or that time that Violence put a man on the moon, or even when violence created a global supply chain reducing famine and enabling luxuries never before seen on earth.

    Wait… Was that violence? I’m sure it probably was.

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      Devils advocate.

      The library was built by the wealth of a nation which conquered widely, the space race was driven mainly by the cold war and to show that america could launch a payload wherever they wanted with complete accuracy and do it twelve times without substantial financial trouble, the global supply chain is bathed in blood and the luxeries it provides are at the expense of others. That last one’s not really devils advocate the reason you can get bananas is due to some horrific shit. Same with cocoa, coffee, and many electronic components.

      Though yeah legit though violance hasn’t always been the historic answer.

      Also, it really didn’t have to be where it was. We could have much of this without bpoodshed it’s just easier for those in power to do so with the violence. It keeps them in power

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        Well it enables capitalists more profit, so that’s why it keeps them in power. The liberal experiment has been a failed experiment from the jump.

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      The global supply chain has pretty much always been violence. The US Navy projects force globally, and US military bases are the cherry on top.

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      Violence was absolutely part of putting a man on the moon.

      The lead scientist used slave labor to build rockets that hit London.

      The rocket technology was important because of ICBMs.

      And the whole thing was a political ploy to defeat a rival.

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        Wernher von Braun mused that the tests went perfectly, but the rocket landed on the wrong planet. His research and passion were used for war but that was not their purpose.

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          I’m sure that makes the people who died in forced labor camps feel better.

          The V-2 killed more people in its production than it did when used.