The decision issued October 7 by U.S. District Judge Jeffrey I. Cummings extends court oversight of the agency until February 2, 2026, and warns that officers who disregard the order could face contempt or criminal referral.
This needed a fucking ruling?!
It does, unfortunately.
“If any of you local or state law enforcement decide to grow a spine: the state courts have your back.”
Reminder: Federal judges can deputize as many citizens as they need to enforce a ruling and there are about 80k well trained, freshly fired park rangers that may want to assist with that.
Hell deputize every citizen (including membets of local PDs) to police ice- and effectively youve taken away their sovereign and qualified immunities.
And started a universal basic income!
Trump is gonna be pissed if he ever understands this.
Arrest ICE. They regularly use false or no plates on their vehicles - it would be a slam-dunk case, since the police can just read the plates to see if they are real. Once arrested, the masks go off and the criminal histories will be open for all to see. In this fashion, Blue States can delegitimize federal traffickers, and further prosecute the Trump Regime in the courts of public opinion and state law.
Court rules laws exists.
Trump administration expected to appeal the decision.
… and in the meantime, fascist shitbags get to continue being fascist shitbags while the appeals court eventually rules that they’re allowed to be fascist shitbags. Rule of law means nothing in the US any more.
they said “can” not “will”
Court rules laws could hypothetically exist.
The day a non-right-wing judge or politician orders the arrest of a right-wing federal agent or paramilitary is the day everyone learns the left has no law enforcement power.
There is a good reason the Canadian Liberals used financial instruments when dealing with the convoy protests and didn’t just order the RCMP or police to stert arresting people.
Bruh the police literally did show up in the end and it was a whole fuckin’ thing. It was livestreamed even, you can find video of it. Now, there was a problem with absolute fucking moron leading the Ottawa Police at the time but he was removed shortly afterward.
I’m not saying we gotta start trusting police, but they’ll take most any excuse to go handcuff someone and exert power. They’re kinky like that.
“no one who wears the badge of public safety should be able to abuse their power or break the law.”
Lololol
they won’t do anything against ICE, because that will imply that they have to also go after cops when they break the law. and that’s a no no for
It’s a badge of capitol safety.
I’m sure the racist pigs will get right on arresting the racist pigs
Turf wars are a thing with law enforcement agencies.
Not even just agencies. I used to live in a small town whose PD was in a feud with the PD of the next town over. It was hilarious (in a sad way) how they would keep busting each other for DUI in each other’s towns.
Honestly, government agencies holding each other accountable by jealously guarding their own powers and independence to operate is how a government of checks and balances SHOULD operate.
It’s when those proverbial small town cops start teaming up and refusing to hold each other accountable that the public needs to start worrying. For the US, that point is about 25-30 years ago though.
After getting pepper sprayed by the ice gestapo they just might lol
Different enforcement agency, Marshalls really really like breaking down cops doors and weirdly enough most agencies like the good pr that brings.
We need militias to conduct citizen’s arrests on these anti-constitution traitors.
We need militias to arrest the anti-constitition traitors who are sending them.
I think there was like a whole amendment or something about that. Whatever, uh I guess back to Netflix.
unlawful actions
Uhhh… those are called crimes.
I’m sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???
Still are.
Sure, the ruling says they CAN be arrested for doing illegal things. But are they going to be? Cop sees ICE beating down a brown person. Is the cop going to run over and arrest them?
Or will they assist ICE?
Depends on the city, and their leadership. Some cities have already directed their police specifically not to assist ICE. Not a huge jump from there to “treat them like a regular civilian”.
I’m just hoping they wake tf up and move on to “treat them like a hostile faction.”
Yep, thats a gang based on hate who obscure their members. Seems like something the national guard should be called in for.
You’re not gonna believe this, but the national guard was called in for it. By the gang, to help the gang.
Probably not.
Most cops, like most humans, don’t particularly want to die.
Kneeling to fascism is worse than death.
They said, comfortably at their keyboard in the A/C, via a device ostensibly constructed due to authoritarian regimes forcing brutal conditions on their workers.
What I’m doing here at my keyboard in the A/C, and I haven’t run the A/C at all this week btw, would not be allowed in a Fascism. Nor would participating in protests such as the No Kings protest last Saturday. Nor would it even be viable if allowed when ICE Gestapo are tearing through apartment buildings and filling the streets with tear gas, and while soulless monopolies keep raising rent and food prices.
This is not some far away issue people can just ignore, it’s your problem sooner or later.
Many cities were doing this from the beginning. Whenever you read the term “sanctuary cities” it was really just a promise not to help.
Local police are not allowed to assist federal agencies enforce their policies unless it is a crime locally. You can even argue this prevents turf wars and conflicts of authority. States rights y’all
Local prisons are not allowed to detain people that have not been legally convicted of something that is a crime locally. You can argue this protects state resources being exploited by unfunded federal mandates. States rights y’all
But no, it’s a YUGE jump to actively interfere, even if it is to enforce laws against federal agents.
I’m sorry, were ICE agents just entirely above the law before this ruling???
Police, by default, are thanks to Qualified Immunity. It takes a judge and a shit ton of evidence to waive that inherent protection. Even for situations where the officers were violating constitutional and statutory rights, and even someone with a severe mental handicap would know clearly that those actions were illegal.
Qualified Immunity is such bullshit.
No, technically they’re not. Cops could always be arrested for unlawful actions. And “qualified immunity” includes the word “qualified”.
This is Just like the the literal/figurative debacle: for some reason people are good with redefining a word as it’s opposite. literal now means figurative. “Qualified” now means “complete”
This is a start because it declares federal agents are the same, but as long as qualified immunity means complete immunity it’s only limited help in restoring law
Uhhh… those are called crimes.
Sort of. In most places, they will be the same, but in legal terms for law enforcement, “unlawful” really means that it isn’t permitted by the law. The action might not be criminal, as in there is a law forbidding it. Again, in most places that means the actions are illegal, because of laws that criminalize the violation of a person’s civil rights, but that’s not always the case.
Crimes are one type of unlawful act.
Civil torts are the other.
Historically, Civil Rights Act lawsuits were some of the more potent tools against corrupt police. Obviously that’s going to be different under Trump.
There’s a difference between an action that is part of the penal code that includes specific punishments, and actions that a government agency/worker does not have authority to perform. Some of these overlap, but not all
Supreme Court said Donald could not be arrested for committing crimes as president. I think we’re just a step away from them giving immunity to Donald’s personal police.
https://statedemocracy.law.wisc.edu/featured/2025/explainer-can-states-prosecute-federal-officials/
Only in practice. Federal officers have always been able to be arrested and tried for state crimes if they are unreasonably outside the scope of their official duties.
Yeah they were, and its not a big Surprise since they were made to be over the law
This should have never been a debate.
sadly it must, all us police are legally above the law already.
Why the fuck was that ever in question?
Because police officers have qualified immunity.
This ruling only means something if SCOTUS upholds the arrest and conviction. It’s an improvement, don’t get me wrong, but I’m not holding my breath.
This ruling is important because it finally brings to the floor that it is not at a valid presumption that local cops cannot enforce the law on federal agents. In the last year, the narrative that “herpaderp supremacy clause means states and cities can’t do anything to enforce law on someone claiming to be a fed” has so normalized a totally unproven and unsupported extension of the supremacy clause that it’s become hard to even bring this up in municipal conversations.
Qualified immunity does not and never has protected anyone in law enforcement from arrest or prosecution for committing a crime. It protects law enforcement personnel from being sued over damages they cause during the course of their duties, provided that the execution of said duties did not violate anyone’s constitutional rights.
ICE are not police and SCOTUS are not state or local authorities. If ICE can be categorized as police then they should be required to get real warrants from local judges and attorneys, but they don’t.
They don’t even get warrants before taking action, period. They generate warrants after the fact.
Well I’d certainly hope so.
Could, but very unlikely they actually will.
Not many cops are going to go around arresting ICE agents for such things I don’t imagine.
This is likely part of why they prioritize hiding their faces and other identifying information. Watch them struggling to arrest someone and they will let go of someone just to pull their masks back up. They are breaking a lot of laws, but if a court can’t identify them, they can’t be charged. Secret police above the law are a key part of a dictatorship.
I doubt any police are going to risk arresting them in the field anyway. Even if they could make the arrest without it dangerously escalating, Pam Bondi would gleefully call it treason or insurrection, and bring in an army.
They can’t breathe with those masks. They would be so happy if we removed them for them.
You would probably get beaten or tortured, and then charged with assaulting a federal officer. That’s one to 20 years in federal prison.
Also threats against law enforcement, such as making terroristic threats or harassment, especially if it endangers the agent or their family. Potentialy harassment, conspiracy if someone identifies the officer, and obstruction of justice.
Basically dictatorship consequences.
You Americans always default to face down ass up whenever there is the slightest danger.
You can only arrest people that want to be arrested.
Cops are explicitly motivated to keep other cops out of jail simply because it could happen to them too.
Citizen arrests are going to get messy.
