• al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com
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    4 hours ago

    White chill dudes still ain’t invited to the party, I wonder why young white males voted Republiclown.- thanks everyone you’ve proven my point, I’ll never be right or accepted because of my gender and skin color. Don’t be surprised when I never take your side from now on.

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      7 hours ago

      If you weren’t so determined to feel offended, you’d see that there’s plenty of chill white dudes in this scene. You are welcome here, if you would only be open to actually being a part of building a community. You don’t need an invite to this party, you just need to be open to working with others with different lived experience to your own.

      We’d love to have you, if you ever decide to open yourself up to growth.

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        4 hours ago

        I haven’t vote republican since the first bush-everyone makes mistakes. But go on you already put me into a box that fits into your view to justify and excuse the failings of capitalism.

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          Lmao and insisting that not being a republican means you’re not right wing. And bit even denying you’re a troll.

          Please go back to Reddit to cry about how impressed straight white men are.

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      The most white male take in the world. Not enough that everything is dominated by white males, someone has to specifically reach out and tell you you’re special otherwise it’s an attack or a slight. It’s not like it’s a shirt of people who are literally oppressed minorities.

      As a straight white male myself, you should be ashamed.

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        13 hours ago

        Sure does make me proud to be a working class male living alone, paycheck to paycheck knowing that some CEO out there is earning billions.

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          I tell you what I told the last guy. This shirt wasn’t about him, but like every other insecure white male, he had to make it about him. It’s pathetic. And it’s the exact insecurity that those rich billionaires use to get idiots to vote for their interests by scapegoating the very people represented on that shirt. And it is OVERWHELMINGLY white males that are those idiots.

          I wasn’t born rich either, but the last people I’m going to blame it on are the people with less security in this world than me.

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              There was no push here, and that it’s perceived is the real enemy’s propaganda doing its job. But yeah, keep thinking that punching down is the solution to the problem. I’m sure the guys who would rather starve people than help them afford healthcare are going to solve all this guy’s grievances as long as he helps them pick on minorities. I mean, just look at all the history of how well that’s worked.

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                9 hours ago

                “No push here,” and yet you accuse us of “punching down” when all we’ve done is point out that there are men too that are suffering - and whenever someone tries to draw attention to it, they get dismissed as insecure idiots.

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                  Literally everyone who isn’t rich is suffering in that same way. The rigged economy is trying to kill all of us. But working class straight white men don’t also have that blamed on them and don’t have their lives threatened in the way these people do on a daily basis.

                  He chose a post about how these people are threatened, and complained because it wasn’t about him. Not only to complain about how this is the one place he didn’t see himself represented, but then to use that as an excuse for supporting people who are literally trying to kill the people on that shirt. If you don’t see why that isn’t disturbingly probablematic and childishly selfish I don’t know what to say to you.

                  I’m a straight white male saying this to you and him, grow the fuck up. I have the same grievances about the rigged economy. And to top that off, I have a chronic life threatening illness.The people in power are trying way harder to kill me than the average straight white male. You don’t see me bitching and moaning that I’m not on that shirt, because I see myself on that shirt. Those people are me, we are all humans struggling. I know who the real enemy is. I would NEVER blame my problems on these people, or complain that their struggle is getting recognition. Because that struggle is IN ADDITION to all the same economic bullshit I have to struggle with day in and day out.

                  Instead of saying, “yeah, shit sucks out there and I’m with you,” he chose to say “this is why people like me support the people trying to kill you.” That is so fucked up beyond belief. THAT’S why he’s being dismissed.

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                    Noone usually takes a minute in these debates to just acknowledge when someone is fighting the good fight and has made them feel better about humanity. I would like to do that this time and say thank you for being a great person (yea I know it’s cheesy, but sue me for it, lol).

                    I am also really sorry you have that condition and that we live in this timeframe where that can’t be quickly and adequately resolved for you. I would really love if I could offer you more tangible support, but as you say, the economy is fucked. So I guess I just wish you the best of luck.

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                    9 hours ago

                    You’re just proving his point. He didn’t make it about himself - he pointed out that people like him are constantly excluded and vilified in exactly the way you’re doing right now. You’ve taken his criticism of a pattern and responded by attacking him personally while lumping an entire demographic into one caricature - something you’d never do if it were any other group.

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        As a poor white man get fuck with your racist stereotypical bullshit I sure have been oppressing people by checks notes* working in a coal mine for the company store. Which rich “white” males are the ones colliding and dominating the world exactly?

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          Again, you’re missing that this shit wasn’t about you. And of course as an insecure white male you went and made it about you. Because you perceived it as a slight.

          “They didn’t put me on the shirt and that’s why people like me vote for literal Nazis that want to kill these people.” Is the whiniest white male shit in the world.

          You’re falling for it.

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          ah yes, the “not all men!” defense, but about, checks notes*, White Men specifically, the group that has oppressed and targeted minorities based off from nearly EVERY CRITERIA OF ‘OTHERNESS’ POSSIBLE. No, no, I will definately invite some chill straight white men to my next campaign, but you good sir, are neither ‘chill’, nor are you invited. Have a day.

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      13 hours ago

      Largely for this exact reason - not because of any real pull toward that side, but because of the push away from the other. Maybe that’ll change when they decide they actually want to start winning elections again.