• MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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    The retards (in the gov. office currently) don’t like neurospicy people, they ask too much inconvenient questions.

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    Everything is “neurodivergent” now.

    Oh, you sometimes forget where you left something? Neurodivergent.

    Oh, you have a particular way you like to organize things that works for you? Neurodivergent.

    Oh you don’t organize at all? Also neurodivergent.

    You don’t like some foods because they taste weird to you? You bet your sweet little snowflake ass, neurodivergent.

    And look, I’ll give it to you that the field has opened up, there is better research into psychology, autism, adhd etc. Diagnosis are obviously going to go up as understanding goes up… but ffs… So many people watch some TikTok self-help “coach” and think “omg, I do that!! that means I’M different and special now! lmao, so neurospicy”. It’s the “I wash my hands after cooking, I’m OCD like that” bullshit. Back when EVERYONE who did anything with even the slightest modicum of care/detail would say they’re a little OCD.

    And it just makes light of people with actual struggles, with REAL “neurodivergence”. As if it’s just some quirky thing. So now people with OCD are seen, NOT as someone with a debilitating disorder that literally consumes hours of their day and faculties. But, instead, they’re just a little silly, just a goof.

    Everyone now is like “omg, sometimes I just daydream and forget what I was doing, I’m soooo ADHD”… like…

    No, I have ADHD… are you struggling to do things in a manner that causes you severe internal panic? And even though you logically know what should be done you can’t bring yourself to take action because you get overwhelmed when trying to think of all the tasks and subtasks and prep work and then you don’t know where to start and so you just …

    don’t …

    do …

    anything, even as your mind is screaming?

    And then the guilt of not having accomplished the goals feeds into a pattern of failure and anxiety to the point where you just stop caring to try anymore?

    Sorry, just a little neurospicy. My brain a widdle fuckywucky, lolol so random. Right?

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      Forgive me if this is a stupid question, but isn’t that why neurodivergences are generally considered along a spectrum? As in, it’s possible to be mildly autistic or mildly ADHD, and therefore still pretty functional - or it’s possible to be profoundly autistic or profoundly ADHD, and therefore probably low-functioning - or anywhere in between?

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        It definitely is, and people are varying degrees of intensity. But to be diagnosed means there are consistent patterns that affect everyday life. And not just in a superficial sense. And it’s not just one thing.

        Like, being awkward or shy doesn’t now mean you’re on the spectrum. You might just be awkward, and shy. And that’s okay. You can try some personal growth classes, do some exercises, build confidence. Cool.

        Maybe you didn’t learn how to clean and now you have terrible habits as an adult. That sucks, doesn’t mean you’re ADHD. You might just need to learn some life skills, get organized, reshape some habits.

        But if you’re literally struggling to keep to a routine because you fail to complete tasks, get overwhelmed, struggle to be consistent, cannot build new habits even when you know you need to… you might want to get checked out. That is not the same thing.

        One is a pattern of problems that affects all aspects of life. The severity/degree of which may vary person to person, but it’s the wide ranging pattern, NOT the superficial “lol, I lose my keys sometimes, I’m so ADHD”.

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      Before it was neurodivergence, it was mental illness.

      Neurodivergence is just “the thing” right now for people to claim they have because they think it’s fun.

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      This is nothing new, people have been saying this shit since before the internet became a household thing. (I organise all my movies alphabetically, I’m soooo OCD!) It’s just the vernacular that changes.

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        Right. The OCD stuff drove me up a wall. Because I knew people who had actual diagnosed OCD and struggled to trust their own mind/eyes, and they’d have to go back and check, and back and check. People having actual panic attacks midday because suddenly they’re worried they left the stove on, even though they checked it like 30 times before leaving.

        But then some RaWr_xD kid would be like “omg, I HAVE to organize my nailpolish, so OCD” (Insert ValleyGirl accent as appropriate). Completely diminishing my friend’s hours lost of their life, everyday, to being equivalent to the basic concept of properly putting things away…

        And then he’d explain to people that he has OCD, and their expectations of what that meant were completely inaccurate. Get upset at him because he’s “doing the OCD thing”, thinking it was some goofy quirk or performance, and not a thing he struggles with and literally told them about. Employers included.

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      Just because you suffer more, you have no right to deny others the relief that comes with the realization that you are not stupid/slow/disorganized/not intelligent enough to plan/etc. you don’t have any insight into the lives of others, and pretending is a skill learned early in our society.

      Yes, there are people who just happily collect labels and like to wear them. But they don’t take anything away from you. They don’t go to a doctor and take your appointment slot. They don’t eat all your medication.

      Suffering is not a competition. Compassion is not a zero-sum-game. everybody wins if there is more of it.

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        you have no right

        Never claimed I did. The doctor does. Go get a diagnosis. If you’re not going to do that, then stop playing disorder pokemon.

        Because it does take away from others. I shared in other posts exactly how it does. The babyfication of it all, and how it misinforms and downplays it to the larger society. Because those people are likely going to be the public’s exposure to it. The “self diagnosed but pretty sure” people FAR exceed the number of clinically diagnosed actually struggling.

        A lot of diagnosed people (especially with severe mental disorders) are not shouting their problems from the rooftops. Theyre embarrassed by it, they feel less than or broken by it. Theyre not bragging “sometimes I lose the will to care for myself and live in a pile of trash”. “I fail to achieve my goals and find success because I can’t manage a consistent routine”. They dont want people to know that.

        If you think you need mental health treatment, by all means, go get it. Do that. But, pretending online isn’t therapy and it isn’t helping you or anyone.

        Shit, I even forgot to mention how people with their “look at me” list of self-diagnoses make people with REAL disorders feel inadequate or imposters. In comes TikTok Grifty McAutism talking about how they got their shit together and a legion of undiagnosed cosplayers (who really just needed to learn some personal responsibility and life skills) doing the “omg, me too, this helped so much”. Meanwhile the person with actual struggles is made to feel like either, a) they’re not trying hard enough, or b) they’re a lost cause.

        “Thousands people are saying how they overcame it, or learned this coping mechanism… why can’t I?”

        That’s real harm, all so someone can selfishly feel like “a quirky little mess uwu”…

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        Hurt me? No one in particular.

        Hurt people with real struggles and disorders? Everyone self-diagnosing via TikTok Md.

        Sorry, I’m gatekeeping disorders here. And the gate is “go get a real fucking diagnosis”.

        People self-identifying themselves with disorders as though it’s a fun way to make them special and unique can fuck off. Like, the people that have these disorders (most of them) don’t want them. They are things they struggle with all day, everyday. And then these kids make it their costume.

        Like, I’m sorry you don’t have a real personality, but being a poser for mental disorder isn’t it. It only hurts the people with those actual struggles. It spreads massive amounts of misinformation about those disorders. Makes it harder for actually diagnosed people to be take seriously. And diminishes the severity of their actual diagnoses.

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          tbf, medical access (atleast in the US) is…simplynnot accessible for the overwhelming majority of the population. even for those few that can afford it, many don’t even have the time because of how grueling our work/life balance is. balance that with any social obligations you might have…and it’s no wonder the US is as sick as it is.

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    We’re getting to the stage where normal everyday traits are being attributed to neurological dingleberries. It’s like when people say “only those with Asian mothers know about keeping lots of plastic bags in a larger plastic bag in the cupboard under the sink” even though this is something everyone does.

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      This is a great example of how “cringe” is just shitty people not liking something and trying to bully you into not liking and/or doing it

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      It’s my first time seeing it and i love it.

      Would hardly be the first cringe thing my neurodivergence leads me towards though.

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          My only thing is that I don’t think “spicy” suits me very well as an individual. Maybe like neurosparkly, in the sense that I don’t come from the Champagne region of France.

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      I’ve been liking & sometimes using the term for a long time. To me it’s more lighthearted and less clinical sounding. People understand what’s meant and it also works well when talking about someone who isn’t diagnosed but clearly has a brain that works differently.

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      One of the more common traits used to identify autism in children is organizing things into a line. This doesn’t mean that many non-autistic won’t do that thing, but it will be used when contextualized along with a larger body of behaviour.

      “this one behaviour is prominent in autism.” can be true without implying that “only autistic people do this.”

      But the general populace is so uninformed that they will get mad at autistic people for relating with each other in ways that often reassemble common autistic behaviours.

      You will even have undiagnosed autistic people getting mad at diagnosed autistic people because “well i do that all the time.”

      There’s a lot of general ignorance that should be dealt with before everyone starts witchhunting.

      Also the common traits have a bias for behaviours found in middle class white boys, due to local relevant bias issues. So things like obsessing about trains, or something a parent would recognize their child doing, like making a neat orderly line.

      These type of memes make make things salient to those who haven’t considered before. Like one of my friends who inquired after relating to a lot of autistic socializing, not just one meme, but after inquiring they found they were diagnosed as a child and just never told, because it would apparently be too cruel to know you are autistic.

      So you have autistic people just trying to relate to each other, and a bunch of undiagnosed or non autistic people getting mad at them for visibly existing in a way that doesn’t make sense unless you have a deep personal relationship with autistic behaviours, because “normal people do that too”

      Similar to how people will enter autistic spaces, say autistic people are cringe and fake for self regulatory stimming behaviours, and get applauded by their ignorant audience who interprets it as “fake disorders cringe.” But you know, it’s better if autistic people have to worry about getting bullied so that they hide their traits like stimming, and then have a meltdown because the world feels like it’s exploding and there is no help, and pavlov says you will be punished if you stim. Fun fact, the gay conversion therapy are also responsible for Pavlovian conditioning being the primary choice on how to ‘fix’ autistic people. This makes sense of you are familiar with complex group behaviours and surprisal reactions, but boils down to “if I don’t see it, it doesn’t exist, and we are going to ignore the rate of autistic suicide.” and any autistic people who don’t mask are socially okay to builly I guess.

      But criticising people on the internet for overly relating to literal diagnostic criteria feels good, because “but I do this thing too” and “I am become justice” in a social environment that doesn’t know what autism is.

      This is all the justification some people need to feel socially confirmed to just actively attack general autistic groups and their behaviours, because they are indistinguishable from people who “just want attention.”

      And bullying an autistic person out of trying to socialize is obviously worth it, as long as we catch one of the fakers “stimming for attention” and totally not trying to embrace aspects of themselves that have been critiqued as “inappropriate ways of being.” from a life spent around non autistic people who need you to know you are existing wrong, because surprising elements take energy to deal with, and if you are autistic there is a decent chance the world doesn’t let you forget how weird you are.

      We should promote active education rather than bullying and witchhunting maybe.

      Actually a good general option for dealing with mass ignorance, including people who jump to diagnostic conclusions based on one single meme. I thought autistic people were the “binary thinkers” (this trait conveys nothing meaningful without a robust understanding of what is being directly referred to. Everyone should think of how much they’ve mapped the area being communicated, and I’d say that’s more important for bullies than supposed copycats who want to be perceived as the thing everyone is bullying.)

      Also even if you are not autistic, it is okay to relate to things that autistic people heavily socialize a relation to. Different autistic communities are going to have different cultures around that too. Etc etc.

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        It’s incredible how many people fail to understand the simple “significantly inhibits normal functioning” of diagnostic criteria. I really don’t think it’s a hard concept yet here we are.

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      After fishing them from a pocket, it probably takes as much time to stack them neatly as it does to just spread them out and pick out the ones you need. There’s no real benefit I can perceive in pre-organizing coins, that are already visually distinct, just to let the ones you don’t need go right back to jumbling in your pocket. Granted none of that prevents me from doing it anyway, or making sure all my paper currency is face-forward, right side up and in order of denomination. Thankfully I’m at least not compelled to further sort them chronologically and/or by serial number.

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    “I don’t understand the value of this practice, thus it must be some kind of disability causing it” ok bro

    Putting coins in size order reduces the likelihood of one falling out of your hand by accident… but go ahead and insult the people with practical foresight if it makes you feel better

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    Broke: Disorganized loose change

    Woke: Perfectly micro-managed coinage

    Bespoke: Handing a jar of pennies to your 8-year-old niece and saying “If you can count it, you can keep it”.