• Grimy@lemmy.world
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    Im saying their rules are stupidly shallow.

    It’s all opinions unless you have the official big book of friendship rules open in front of you.

    Instead of saying “hihi, both of these are opinions”, why don’t you try to justify theirs instead?

    You aren’t actually making a point.

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      Okay, I’ll justify their point: people who use LLMs are, on average, dumb as fuck. And more insidiously, they will get more dumb over time.

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        He was a good intelligent friend, and then became “dumb” because he used something you don’t like.

        Reminds me of teenagers hating each other for the brand of clothing they wear. Incredibly shallow.

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          He “became dumb” when he started giving up on knowing the truth about things and instead believing the output of LLMs, yes. And anybody who doesn’t understand that and won’t listen to reason when it comes to how that stunts their intellectual development deserves to be ditched.

          If you stick by your friends regardless of what they do, cool, but some of us have standards and enough friends to enforce those standards without going lonely. It must suck knowing you’re stuck no matter what.

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            Bro, he used the thing to search for a venue for a show, he didn’t try to get it to spit out a physics paper.

            I dare you to send all your friends a message telling them you can’t be friends with them if they use AI. I bet a lot of them will respond with just question marks because it’s literally unhinged behavior.

            If it affects you this much, it’s because you have become way too emotional about it. Touch grass bro, AI isn’t the greatest evil since Hitler.

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              You’re getting ratioed because you are acting delusional about something rather important, FYI.

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                I know what sub I’m in. Funny how easy it is to avoid all my point, I guess it’s fun to pretend.

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              Bro, he used the thing to search for a venue for a show,

              That’s an incredibly stupid use for an LLM. If someone’s that stupid in this way, they’re probably stupid in other ways. Some upstream decision making process is broken.

              There are more fish in the sea. If you’re traveling and looking for a hotel, you could stay at the one with the broken windows. Maybe it’s fine! Maybe there’s a good reason, and the windows aren’t even in the guest rooms. But you could also just not bother, and stay someplace that doesn’t have obvious red flags.

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                A broad stroke based on not much. It’s not black or white, it’s about time vs quality, and the quality is mostly dependant on how easily available the info is.

                In any case, it still makes you a shitty friend. In the scope of things, it’s a drop in the bucket. Are you really going to drop someone everytime they do something you think is stupid? There’s a lot of arrogance in that statement, thinking you are somehow the arbiter of intelligence. Must be tiresome for people around you, having to adapt to such a high bar that only exists in your mind.

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                  Based on not much? Lol what. Finding venues and hours of operation is the go-to example of LLM failures. The other day whatever Google slaps on the top of the search results lied to my friend’s mom about something like that, and we had to remind her not to trust the AI.

                  Plus, the topic isn’t friends. The topic is someone you just met for dating. Dating is full of strategies to bail early so you don’t waste your time or theirs. If someone told me they were a huge fan of reality tv, that’s a minus for me.

                  For LLMs specifically, it is the wrong tool for finding facts. If someone told me they were writing their JavaScript in Excel I would also question their decision making.

                  thinking you are somehow the arbiter of intelligence.

                  You just made that up. Are you an LLM?

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              It’s really fascinating to me how AI pushers inevitably fall back to accusing anyone who isn’t singing the praises of LLMs as being “too emotional”.

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                Because once you shut down all their inane excuses, all they have left is gaslighting.

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                  Everyone that doesn’t think like me is gaslighting me :(

                  No one has yet to explain to me how a choice of software is a valid filter. All I get are emotional “well I don’t like it”, as if their friends have never done or used something they don’t approve of. People are really fiending for an echo chamber it seems, even in their own personal lives and not just online.

                  It’s simply shallow, like if I said I’m not friends with apple users. I hate the company and am justified in that hate, but making or breaking friendships over it is childlike behavior.

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                    There are multiple examples in this post alone, I suggest you do more reading and less posting. If you need to be shown the door, I’ll be happy to do so.

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                We are talking about breaking friendships, and even a marriage in the author’s case, over software.

                I also think there’s a media campaign being waged to get people riled up. Some of these articles read like gop level rhetoric. The emotional aspect is very noticeable from the outside, especially when we get anything where the classic “protect the children” can apply.

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                  You know the author isn’t married and stated as much, right? Getting this upset over their hypothetical marriage is a little extreme. Especially when the article says absolutely nothing about “protecting the children.”

                  People are allowed to break off romantic and non-romantic relationships for whatever reason they desire. It sounds like you don’t particularly want to be friends or date anyone that doesn’t like AI, so I’m not sure what the problem is for you… that other people have different moral standards and world views than you?

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                    It was hypothetical and the response to that hypothetical question was emotional.

                    The children example was clearly talking about other articles.

                    Yes, people are allowed to break up for whatever reason, but this specific reason is incredibly shallow.

                    I do have friends that don’t like AI and I wouldn’t dream of dropping them because of it. It’s insane, it’s just a difference in opinion. I want meaningful relationships, not an echo chamber.

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        It isn’t much of a challenge if your statement is meaningless.

        Seems like you are falling back to rhetoric. I’m guessing you can’t actually justify their opinion because it is actually brutally shallow.

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            Do you typically start running around in circles when challenged?

            I mean, if you have a point to make, then make it. It’s just that your previous comment didn’t have any.

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              I’ve been pretty clear with my responses, including my original one seeing that it was a question.

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                My assesment is different then the author’s because it isn’t shallow. I also never actually explained what I value in friendships, just that it isn’t the software my friends use.

                Your direct comparison brings nothing to the table since it’s mostly a fallacy anyways (bOtH aRe OpiNioNs) and is faulty since there’s nothing on my side to compare.

                I’m telling you I don’t understand your point. Am I missing something? Explain it again if I am misunderstanding.

                I’m guessing though I will get an other empty one liner saying nothing or no reply so you can keep pretending.