Russia’s first humanoid AI robot fell over seconds into its official unveiling, with staff hurriedly struggling to pull a curtain across the stage to hide the fallen machine.

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    21 hours ago

    Why do people keep forcing this? Form is a necessity derived from function. These things cannot function like humans so quit making them human shaped.

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      If you make a human like robot, then that robot can use everything a human can.

      Society is simply already tailored to that form.

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        We are full of muscles and neurons that help us move and balance. Our current infrastructure still requires many of us to have accommodations to make it accessible.

        These fucking robots are less mobile than nursing home patients or a six month old baby.

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          Yeah… I build and fit prosthetics at a university hospital. I constantly have to explain to people how cyborg technology will most likely never be on par with your regular human arm.

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          Nature is amazing but has different constraints and doesn’t always choose the smartest route.

          We can use computers, motors and sensors instead of replicating the human body exactly. A lot of startups are failing and there’s a cash grab like always going on, but the tech is rapidly advancing. Boston dynamics for example has an impressive demo up ( https://youtu.be/I44_zbEwz_w ). There’s definitely still a long way to go in any case

          Personally, I think it’s really cool (except the fact that it will be quickly weaponized and eventually used against civilian populations)

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        Additionally, giving the robot features of a human-like face makes it easier for people to interact with them.

        Not really. You run into the uncanny valley phenomenon if you make them too human like.

        I think The Culture by Iain Banks has a good way for robots to show emotion. They use color instead. Make sure the colors are standard and it will work fine.

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          That’s why I wrote “features of a human-like face” (like Q3PO in Star Wars), not a look-alike copy with “skin” (like Data in Star Treck NG or the one in the article).

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            Hey, don’t you dare speaking bad about my childhood friend. Data is a treasure and I love him!

            AND HE’S FULLY FUNCTIONAL!!! 😭

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              I like him either. For the lack of examples, he’s just the first example of an android with skin that came into my mind. Yet, despite he’s a robot, he’s probably too sympathic to trigger the uncanny valley phenomenon.

              After thinking about that for a while, Zuck might have been the better example.

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        optimal for two legged motion

        Arguable, it’s an evolutionary oddity that we developed bipedalism and it turned out to be somewhat beneficial for survival and we are the only ones who walk vertically.

        Bipedal motion has been far more successful in birds than in any other group and it’s form has actually evolved independently several times since the dinosaurs. So, arguably, horizontal posture with femurs in an angle seem far more optimal, stable, energy efficient at passive balance, etc. Or, as a friend in biology used to say, “old birds don’t fall when standing on the ground”, unlike old people who are at a higher risk of falling when muscle mass and coordination starts to wear off.

        Since humans are minimal energy optimized, but birds have been found not to be while still being more optimal than humans at certain things. There should be a theoretical bird shaped bipedal model that is far more energy optimal than human proportions for biped locomotion.

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1571302/

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      Because it’s hard to do and if you can do the thing that is hard to do you must be good at what you do and people will invest