• Gates9@sh.itjust.works
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    2 hours ago

    We can’t have expected anything different. Neither party wants the truth out there, so they’ll trade alternating versions of “the truth”, and pretend to argue over it, in order to hide the real truth.

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    As I’ve said before we are probably going to get two versions of the Epstein files the one edited by trump that will probably be released first and the real one that will be released later when Trump is dead or out of office in some way

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      8 hours ago

      He’s also friends with Captain Fingerpaint.

      He works with Sergeant Play-Dough under the watchful eyes of General glue eater.

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    8 hours ago

    You mean the 1,000 FBI agents, reported back in July, that were tasked with flagging references to Trump weren’t just making a fun Facebook style memories reel for the Orange One?

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    Oh you mean Trump just saying the other day that “it’s all Democrats” in the files anyway wasn’t him essentially admitting that they removed all the Republicans from it. Gee color me shocked.

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      So when he suddenly demanded the release of the files the other day, it wasn’t his characteristic humble contrition but just knowing they finished the data purge?

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        What are steps we should take when this happens? I’m not directly asking you, but more the room. Like what is gonna happen if he releases the files and only Dems are on it? That’s what got me worried.

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          Hundreds, possibly thousands, of vicitims are alive right now and can and will identify any perps one both sides of the isle.

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            I hope the world takes em seriously. I’m so tired of folks. As a person who is married to a rape victim…that no one believed…it kills me folks don’t take this shit seriously…

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          Theyre going to pretend only dems were in it and use politics to go after them. And the news reporters will go along with it.

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    Why are we trusting this guy again, though? Like I’m sure if they can be scrubbed they will be but seriously? Look at the fucking source man.

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    I think it depends on how much the implicated billionaires and some of the smarter Republicans are involved in editing the files.

    If the Trump admin is doing it alone, I bet that this redaction will be completed so sloppily and incompetently, there will be enough crumbs and hints leftover that we’ll be able to paint a picture to see more on how Trump and Republicans are involved.

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      I’m guessing the web of people involved is becoming difficult to manage. Like Bill Gates calls up and says hey don’t forget to remove my name. And then Bezos calls. And so on. If the billionaires start to become unhappy, I predict it won’t be another kid who couldn’t make the high school rifle club that takes the next shot. It won’t be maxipad on the ear week. But unless they redact like 99% of it, yeah it will be sloppy and fully of fuckups.

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      With any luck, some ethical career agents have done their job sloppily with purpose.

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        Some of it may just be due to circumstances too. They were working nights and weekends tracking in an excel spreadsheet that was accidentally available to other agents.

        So yeah like this wasn’t done slowly and methodically.

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    The bill requires the justice department deliver a report on what was redacted including a list of names.

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      He approved them because they are now part of an active investigation he asked Bondi to open last week. Can’t release investigation evidence to the public

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    Good fucking luck. These aren’t paper files you can burn, and the reference trees are fucking DEEP.

    Federal agencies use digital reference and versioning to make sure there is always a paper trail back to access and fucking with records. You can’t go back and scrub these things just on the surface.

    If you’re familiar with code repositories like git or svn, it’s like that. Anyone who accesses or changes a file is logged. Any deletions have revisions saved. All the links to external sources like court documents or witness testimony is kept on record similarly, and you can’t go back and scrub the history like you could by just burning shit without breaking a whole bunch of stuff. There’s always a source of truth in these systems.

    I think they are imagining they keep access to these systems out of touch if anyone until Trump is safely out office is my guess. Then he thinks he can pardon it all away, but the history will be saved and accessible eventually.

    Congress (or at least some of them) know how these systems work, and they’ll find broken references or bad links to things that should exist and have gone “missing” once they dig in. I’d like to see the excuses for the disappearing of data when new subpoenas come out.

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      without breaking a whole bunch of other stuff

      They have shown a penchant for doing exactly that. The Whitehouse is literally in shambles. People need to stop acting like anything they say or do would ever be in good faith.

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        Regardless of their intentions, you just can’t hope and wish the underlying systems to obey your wants.

        Think of it like you creating a “Choose Your Own Adventure” book, except when it says to go to page 43, that page is missing. Or a reference to a character later in the book was missing from previous pages.

        It’s a digital statement of record, and attempts to alter the history of said statement breaks everything in the “future” created in this system. If you try and go back to delete stuff, the record will be broken if you break a link to something previously created.

        They don’t have the manpower to dump and completely recreate the entire FBI database to solely remove Trump’s name from these files, and even if they did, there would still be references in documents to things that no longer exist, like “Evidence Document #328”, and then it shockingly doesn’t exist anymore? No fucking way.

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      You seem to have some familiarity with this. Would I be right in surmising that these systems are based on some kind of append only ledger system similar to git?

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      I hope you’re right. And I hope Trump’s people are dumb enough not to realize it.