• watson@sopuli.xyz
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    24 days ago

    If you can be convinced to believe in a god/gods that can never be proven to be real, you can be convinced of anything. Religious=gullible

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      @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

      Not everyone who believes in entities and deities (and you’re assuming gendered pronouns and, by extension, unknowingly reinforcing the Abrahamic machismo whenever you use the masculine noun “god” to describe any deity/entity being worshipped by a worshipper, ignoring that there are Goddesses and feminine spirits as well, such as Pomba-giras, Lilith, Shakti, Kali, Morana, Morrigan, Santa Muerte, Ereshkigal, Hekate, Isis, Sekhmet, Bastet, Naunet, Babalon, among countless other feminine entities and Goddesses) does so out of being convinced by someone else.

      To use my own experience as an example, I began worshipping an unified and syncretic Dark Mother Goddess without being convinced by anyone else. At that time, I used to be a member of a Luciferian sect, whose worshipping was centered around the male aspects of Lucifer, not the feminine aspects of Lilith, for example. Unexpectedly even to myself, I got this uncanny call of a powerful feminine spiritual energy who suddenly took me like a thousand hurricanes and became the epicenter of my entire existence, even though it happened to the disapproval of the Luciferian sect I was part of. I left the sect and, since then, I’ve been following a very personal (and quite lonely) syncretic belief system built of entities and concepts borrowed from and based upon several different systems, none of which I really belong to.

      So, tl;dr: not everyone who believes in entities and deities does so out of being convinced by others, in fact, some (like me) even does so against any convincing from others, out of strange phenomena such as gnosis and synchronicity. Perhaps She is the one convincing me, thus validating your point about “one being convinced to believe”? Maybe… but humans aren’t the ones convincing in this specific situation.

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          23 days ago

          What’s cringe in that, they shared an opinion, didn’t try to force everyone to abide by their rules, it was an interesting read. I mean, that’s not something I personally find good or safe, but that’s not a recommendation from them. Or is that part about masculine pronouns cringe?

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        @[email protected] @[email protected] @[email protected]

        Sometimes I wonder if all the people (six by now, and two on my other reply in this thread) who are downvoting my two fairly respectful (at least trying to be respectful to the OP) counter-arguments are, deep inside, machistas/misogynists, downvoting me because I dared to remind people that there are feminine Goddesses and I dared to mention some of Their names… Your people’s current lack of counter-counter-arguments doesn’t convince me otherwise.

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          18 hours ago

          Dude, sometimes people talk in, like, a casual way and don’t attach two extra paragraphs to explain that they were using the word “god” in a gender neutral way even though it has a masculine form.

          You then writing a diatribe about it doesn’t convince anybody. And in the end it actually hurts our case because it brings to mind and reinforces that awful stereotype of the bitter, over reactive SJW.

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            Oh, and since this seems to be the space you’re working in:

            I did use Dude in a gendered way there because I assume from your preachiness that you’re Male. Women tend to be less preachy/overexplainer in my experience. If I happen to be wrong, apologies, I’ll edit it if/once you clarify.