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It’s hilarious that OP thought going full in o proton is the other end of the “I love privacy” spectrum. How the fuck are you here on lemmy and that uneducated and ignorant on all this? These are two people a couple of steps away from each other on one end, not even close to what the meme actually is. I wouldn’t be surprised at all if this was rage bait, because it’s dumb enough to be that. Or a proton shill, which definitely exists here.
Imagine paying anything for proton services.
This meme format is sexist. Why is it always always always the woman who has the negative side?
The format doesn’t seem to be inherently. Have you tried interacting with fewer dudes?
This meme format is inherently sexist. Anytime you have a meme format that has both a man and a woman on it, and one side is going to be the “bad” side, it’s always going to bring out the biases of whoever is creating it.
What? I always thought the guy was the negative side! The woman is the reasonable normie, the guy is the weirdo tinfoil hat nerd!
What even are all those crappy icons?
i think I’ve seen a lot of cases when it’s the other way round.
although if we do the statistics it’ll likely show a bias.
Not everything is sexist queen 💅
Ok. This meme is.
Proton has become a problem for privacy
Something I missed?
The biggest threat is that the CEO is pro maga (cue defenders saying “well ackshully”) and thinks trump is better for his business (cue tankie both sidesers).
The other threat is that at some point proton gave an IP address or something obtained through a legal france->swiss court order allowing french ACABs to hunt and skin the most dangerous game: journalists
Edit, activist I guess https://www.itpro.com/security/privacy/360793/protonmail-criticised-sharing-activists-ip-address-law-enforcement
Proton lol. You’re such a joker
No matter who someone is, don’t give them all of your personal property.
I use Protonmail from Proton. That’s it.
Same. And once i stop procrastinating i want to set up my own email server as well.
Oooh naughty naughty. If you’re into some light cutting I have tips.
Have fun, it’s hell and the pain doesn’t stop until you give up.
Most accurate comment I ever read
It does, in fact, stop! Persevere!
I only use one subscription service in my life and it’s email from proton. I once knew a sysadmin who said that self-hosting email is a full-time job. So I just pay for my email with a reputable company and have my own domain name attached. His comment scared me off for good. But other people have said it’s not that hard. Please write me your experience , ok?
Amateurs, I bet neither of them even knows about Qubes OS
I don’t trust proton either
Who do you trust?
The company could flip any time but for now their products are pretty good as a google alternative. I use the calendar, mail, cloud, contacts and vpn app and have zero complaints. Plus they couldn’t access any of my data if they wanted to.
they couldn’t access any of my data if they wanted to.
I am not so sure that’s true
The thing is, it’s not true about any E2E encryption where all parts of the codebase are controlled by the company.
It could be as simple as updating their website to send your password to them in plain text while logging in, now the encryption is useless as they would have your password.
i trust them more than google. they’ve been a little sketchy lately (bc of the ai stuff, not the ceos political stuff) but at least only one entity has my data this way. I’d rather self-host but i can’t rn.
they’ve been known to collaborate with governments and have been accused of forcing traffic through an Israeli contractor. i can’t trust them.
In guessing the left is Proton but those icons are about as bad as googles.
They might have actually somehow managed to come up with worse logos than Google uses. I assume the top one is an email app, the bottom left is a file manager, and bottom centre is a password manager? But I’m less than certain about those, and everything else is a complete mystery.
Its amazing, in an era where our phones have higher res than monitors did 20 years ago, icons have less detail.
Like show a damn calendar for the calendar icon. Hell, the ANSI emoji would be better. 📆
From top left to bottom right, horizontal first:
- Password Manager
- Calendar
- VPN
- Drive
- Authenticator
- Mascot for their LLM
The only ones that are a bit ambiguous are the Password Manager and the VPN logos imo
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Napkins
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Square turned sideways
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Square not turned sideways
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Triangle
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Folder
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Half-eaten donut hanging on a doorknob
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Cat
How was I supposed to infer the meaning of those?
- an envelope but like, without the top
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- calendars are kind of this shape and this has 31, a day of the month in it
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- folder, it’s their drive app, were you keep files and folders. This one’s actually not that bad.
- the keyhole is used in damn near every password manager, and when it’s not a key it’s a shield of some sort.
- ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
(This whole reply is mostly /s)
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Thanks. This is helpful
Both stupid
For a moment I wasn’t sure which one of the two would be better. After careful consideration I decided both are noobs, because real pros only use emacs rigged to behave as the whole OS on an airgapped 15 year old thinkpad for anything that needs a computer, but most likely keep that in a vault too and only get it when absolutely necessary.
Design brief: Make them look like the google suite but purple. The harder it is to work out what the app does from the logo, the better.
Who doesn’t love out of focus triangle app?
Meh…the mail, calendar and drive icons are easily recognizable for what they do. The others are easily recognizable and distinguishable from each other, although their function definitely is less clear from the visuals of the icon. This is true for most apps by far though, not just google and proton. Most icons by far makes the company behind it identifiable, not the function it performs.
Gotta disagree. At a glance they are all just purple blobs. Sure you can tell if you look closely, but you shouldn’t have to.
I disagree, you don’t have to look closely at all to get the function of several, unless you consider 1-2 seconds looking closely of course…
unless you consider 1-2 seconds looking closely of course…
I do - It should be recognizable in a glance (milliseconds, not seconds). Maybe it sounds minor, but I work in design and let me tell you it makes a big difference.
The only one I can figure out is the folder. The rest are utter shite.
That seems more like you’re the issue if that’s all you can figure out…
Good design is easy for everyone to understand
Now that you’ve mentioned calendar I’m guessing it is the one with 31 on it? Honestly didn’t know what it was at first glance, thought it was maybe something to do with window management as it sorta looks like a browser window or something. Still don’t know how it is supposed to look like a calendar other than it having a 31 on it
Both aren’t really private. Both is a for-profit company claiming it to be private.
Proton is a non-profit.
No. Proton is a for profit company whose largest shareholder is a non profit foundation. As is written right in your linked post. The foundation is not the company.
Somebody get this user some lemmy silver.
Oh. Didn’t know lol. I just saw Proton blabla non-profit blabla and jumped to a conclusion too fast like I always do 🥴
Which isn’t a bad thing, actually. Being a non-profit can make it hard to expand in some cases, but what makes for-profit companies shit is the shareholders calling for the upward going line, which isn’t the motivator of the shareholder here.
For-profit company and private are not mutually exclusive though. Mullvad VPN for example is
as mucha for-profit companyasunlike proton which is nonprofit, and arguably also one of the most private VPN services available.Even if you were correct in saying Proton is for profit, “for-profit” and “private” are not mutually exclusive.
Proton is not a for profit.
False. The Proton Foundation is a Swiss non-profit and does not have shareholders.
Proton was created to serve the world, and the non-profit Proton Foundation ensures that this can never change. As Proton’s primary shareholder, the foundation exercises its control to ensure that Proton does not deviate from our mission to build a better internet that serves the interests of all of society.
Edit: meaning, there’s a difference between the foundation and the company
She loves being lied to
Why’s Summer using shite software. Tom was the one operating under a delusion in that film
Just like in the movie. Tom is indeed delusional, Summer is just cynical in her communications. They are both using shit software. Tom is putting all his fate on a single private company in pursuit of a misguided ideal and ignoring the red flags through rose tinted glasses. Summer doesn’t want to commit at all because she knows there’s much more complex factors at play than privacy alone but hasn’t yet found someone who makes her feel safe and secure the way she wants, so she settles temporarily for what feels fun in the moment.
😆 I’m sure the creator of the image had all this in mind 👌🎯
Is it a bad take to say that I hated both of the characters in that film?
No, I think that was a valid reading of the film. Both characters are kinda shit. But the dude was worse.
