• Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca
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    7 hours ago

    I’ve considered it a good thing to get the “You’re making a mistake” pushback for things like marriage and kids. Because it is hard and you do have to give up and lot of things for it, so you had better be damn sure thats what you want.

    You should be able to hear that (from certain types of people) and think “what the hell do they know?”. And if you do think “oh, damn, am I making a mistake?” then you should really fully stop and consider that question.

    I think it’s easy for people to fall into the traps of thinking marriage and kids are just the next steps in life and things will get better when you’re married. Marriage doesn’t make anything better.

    A lot of people say things like “marriage is great, but its a lot of work”. Those are the people that I’m like “really? Sounds like you maybe did make a mistake there” because (and I’m not expert, I’ve only been married once) it’s really easy being married to my wife.

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      22 minutes ago

      A lot of people say things like “marriage is great, but its a lot of work”. Those are the people that I’m like “really? Sounds like you maybe did make a mistake there” because (and I’m not expert, I’ve only been married once) it’s really easy being married to my wife.

      I think you may not be understanding the meaning of “marriage is great, but its a lot of work”. Its not like work meaning carrying lots of bags of gravel or something.

      The “hard work” in marriage is being truly open to communication, working hard yourself to communicate accurately, and being honestly self reflective. Its recognizing your own shortcomings, and trying to better yourself, but also being open to being told by your mate where your thoughts or efforts or deficient. A natural human reaction is to be defensive, possibly even striking back with your own criticisms of the other person in the moment, but that’s immaturity. Its hard work making real positive changes in yourself as the result of all of this.

      When you have a mate you love and a mate that loves you, you can know these are things not said in malice, but in a genuine effort to make you a better person. All of this is a balance with your own sense of self-worth and critical thinking to properly evaluate your internal and the external criticism.

      All of that is hard work.

      Then there’s another part too that I’m seeing in the years ahead: seeing your spouse’s health decline and being their caregiver as your own health is failing from age at the same time. Alternatively, being that first declining health spouse, and watching your mate grow ever more tired caring for you. All of this effort are expressions of love, but it is most certainly hard work.

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      4 hours ago

      A lot of people say things like “marriage is great, but its a lot of work”. Those are the people that I’m like “really? Sounds like you maybe did make a mistake there” because (and I’m not expert, I’ve only been married once) it’s really easy being married to my wife.

      Just wanted to point this out. Life is supposed to be hard , Marriage isn’t supposed to be.

      • zzffyfajzkzhnsweqm@sh.itjust.works
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        2 hours ago

        Nah I would disagree… 99% of marriage is just pure fun. However people forget about 1% that is relationship maintenance. This is work. Not the hardest work, but work.

        But some people just ignore the fact you should take special care of this relationship. People can very easliy and slowly grow apart…

        The hardest example is if a married person starys getting in love with someone else. This is common and noone is imune to this. However having a doscussion about this with your partner is unplesent and would more likely fall into a category of hard work as compared to category of fun…

        Probably I am just disagreeing with the how much ‘a lot’ represents…

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          11 minutes ago

          Relationship maintenance isn’t exclusive to marriage. It’s just a part of life.

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          married person starys getting in love with someone else.

          Nah man. Not common at all. Not saying it doesn’t happen but I’d really need to see something that this is ‘common’