• Deceptichum@quokk.au
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        I know it’s a joke and all, but “white” people have been in the a Middle East since before Jesus.

        You can find the whitest people you know even as far as Xinjiang in modern day China and they arrived there thousands of years ago BCE.

        Genetics are not defined to one area unless cut off from all ability for a population pool to travel/leave. We’re gradients of features that don’t fit nicely into geopolitical borders.

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            Sorry, can you please explain?

            I just wanted to use the moment to educate about how race doesn’t exist and that you can find pale skinned redheads with blue eyes living in the Middle East and historically for a long time.

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              thats fair im sure, but its definitely not the norm, so suggesting the “most important person of all time” (for believers etc) was likely white is just not a good look in my opinion (just my opinion, maybe it is what do I know)

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                Oh yeah no sorry I’m not suggesting Jesus was white. He would have looked like the average Jewish/Semetic person at the time.

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          Is this suggesting that Jesus was white, or statistically, there’s a chance that he was white, or that wasn’t as brown as the rest of the population, or other? Even in 2025, with decades of active migration, if you travel to India / Asia, African countries, etc. It’s rare as hens teeth to find a white person in a remote community. Possibly more likely to find an albino or person with vitiligo.

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            It’s neither.

            It’s suggesting finding a white man in the Middle East ~0BCE wasn’t impossible or even unlikely.

            Asia, Africa, and India are not the Middle East. It’s not surprising to find different genetic groups in further away regions. But you can easily go to say Afghanistan and find “white people”, it’s not rare as hens teeth.

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      Umm, I think his dad had strong genes, he just “looked like a common man” but could have had black, white, Asian, Polynesian features. Assuming his dad was not, then probably this would be “historically accurate” for someone born of two jews

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        have you ever met a jewsh person my dude?

        this painting is of a person with essentially Scandinavian features. this painting is of a person with light colored eyes.

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        Asian features? You didn’t think about what you typed for even half a second, did you

        Edit. Peekes at profile …Holy yikes you actually believe this stuff?

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    I love all the desperate apologetics over this passage. The lackeys of the rich always try to talk about how this means the rich need to unburden themselves before getting into heaven, like a laden camel passing through a narrow city gate.

    But “camel through the eye of a needle” was a fairly common idiom at the time used to mean impossible - the equivilant of “when pigs fly”.

    The intent of this passage is crystal clear: “the rich will never ever get into heaven”.

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      The idea of all these rich fucks being barred from their heaven after a lifetime of greed, and likely many other terrible things, gives me great schadenfreude.

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      You really have to do some next level gymnastics to skate around the many harsh warnings directed at the wealthy throughout the Bible.

      The prophet Ezekiel claimed that [the legend of] Sodom’s destruction by God was because of their apathy towards the poor. Not even that they “oppressed” the poor, which other passages also harshly condemn. They knew there was a need, had the means to fill that need, and chose not to which was enough to warrant a firey death.

      That’s just one example. The overarching theme is very clear. Having wealth is enabling the suffering of others, which is a one way ticket to the Big Guys bad side.

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        And it was very clearly understood by the early church. My favorite such example comes from Ambrose of Milan, who was very clear that rich people were incapable of giving gifts to the poor because they could, at most, restore some of the poor person’s rightful property to him, which the rich hold in a static state of perpetual theft.

  • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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    Unless you won the big million dollar prize in the final puzzle, is anyone really getting rich from Wheel of Fortune? The average winnings are only a couple thousand dollars.

    Jesua just trying not to take the blame for his terrible spin.