“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said adding that “if each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries”

White House Deputy Chief of Staff Stephen Miller said in a video that went viral on Friday that undocumented immigrants are not entitled to due process protections when being removed from the United States, arguing that providing full legal proceedings would make deportations unworkable.

“There are 15 million illegal aliens,” Miller said. “If each were given a full trial, deportations would take centuries. They had no due process entering the country, and they are not entitled to it when being removed.”

Supreme Court precedent has long held that constitutional protections apply to noncitizens within U.S. territory. In Wong Wing v. United States (1896), the Court ruled that the Fifth Amendment’s due process clause protects noncitizens from arbitrary detention or punishment.

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    Ah, the land of the free welcoming the tired, heartbroken and poor huddled masses yearning for that freedom?

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    Can’t stress this enough, but Stephen Miller is one of the shittiest humans alive. Has all the earmarks of an asshole young man who was shunned by all women, and he’s out for his revenge. What a twat.

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    This guy basically just said he doesn’t care what the constitution says, he’s going to do whatever he wants anyway.

    I sure with the idiots on the right would get riled up over literally anything besides the 2nd amendment.

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    I’m sick of people trying to gaslight us into thinking ICE is only going after illegal immigrants and that they just want people to follow legal processes to come in. They’re arresting people at courthouses, in the midst of following the legal process to immigrate

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      They’re also arresting Americans and then claiming afterwards that their birth certificates are fake.

      And people need to get this through their heads: If illegal immigrants have no right to due process, then NOBODY has the right to due process, because how are you going to prove you’re a citizen without due process?

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      I just saw an ad recruiting new ICE members. It was essentially just selling fear. These people are such cowards.

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      Isn’t the onus on the state to prove they are undocumented? That’s the charge yea?

      So…defense lawyer to 5-A, checkmate?

      This seems like something that would be thrown out before the envelope was even opened. Like AOL floppies on the judges docket.

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        You would be right, if the Republican administration actually followed rule of law. How many major court cases have they lost, yet continued doing that they were sued/charged over? I’ve lost count. The laws are not being Enforced, because the enforcement is the task of the Executive branch, i.e. the presidency and departments (FBI, NSA, DOD, DHS, etc). In previous administrations, the non partisan federal employees would enforce the law with either party in the Whitehouse, but with this current Republican administration and it’s purge of federal workforce and replacing non-partisan positions with political appointees, as explicitly called for in Project 2025.

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    Every time I see that horrible fuck’s face I wish for horrible fates to befall him that I will not put in print.

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      I will put them in print. I hope he loses his favorite bath towels and has to dry off with the ones he would use for drying his hands after going to the bathroom if he actually washed his hands

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    You need due process to even know if they are illegal aliens. They just want to deport people without checking.

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    Oh geez, using that logic, no criminal used due process to murder, rape, steal, so they can’t be charged.

    Stephen Miller is truly the Chief of Staff we deserve.

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    Due process isn’t something you “deserve”. You are entitled to it, regardless of any circumstance. The process is due to you. It is your unalienable right.

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        Been law governing statesia (then part of England) since 1354. And I quote:

        No man of what state or condition he be, shall be put out of his lands or tenements nor taken, nor disinherited, nor put to death, without he be brought to answer by due process of law.

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    You didn’t have due process to be born Stephen, so you don’t deserve it when we put your neck in a guillotine.

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      I’d prefer slowly lowering him into a wood chipper, feet first. After we feed him a ton of adrenaline so he can’t pass out.

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        Nah, he deserves a much more ironic punishment more suited to make him miserable.

        He deserves to be forced to afford rent on minimum wage in an inner city surrounded by the people he hates.

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          How about he is forced to pick up trash alongside the highways, and the government makes very prominent, hyper-cool videos about it, just like they are making for people carted off to CECOT?

          Most days he is picking up trash by the highway, and other days he has to work in Hispanic communities doing community service like working in a soup kitchen, bussing tables? Ideally, all he hears all day long is Spanish.

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        Vivisection is what he deserves. Then we may actually find out what the fuck is wrong with him before he dies in terror.

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          Watch Nuremberg. The doctor played my Ramek was a fucking fortune teller. Really scary shit when you read up on his research and his thoughts on Nazis, which seem to be pretty accurate nearly 100 years later.

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            Still too fast.

            I propose keeping him alive for decades to work in horrid toiling conditions 16 hours per day, 7 days a week. Sleeping where he works. One meal per day, unpleasant.

            Diamond mines in Africa? Some repetitive manual factory labor?

            He can earn the woodchipper after 4 decades…

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              Probably unpopular opinion, but torturing our current problems wont prevent our future problems.

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                I disagree but it’s kind of a soft disagreement, as I don’t really know for sure. Obviously we’re all joking about the torture, and don’t condone violence…

                But, we generally torture people of small crimes, or torture objectively innocent people. Think of the children in the African mines, still to this day.

                The people who are causing all our problems never or rarely get tortured. And because they have all the wealth and power, they rarely get any form of punishment. They aren’t afraid of any consequences, generally.

                So if we actually did start torturing them, and showing them they’re not invincible, would they change their ways?.. Idk but maybe.

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                  Punishment as a deterrent hasn’t worked for the entirety of human civilization. Otherwise we would have fewer murders than other countries as we continue to be one of the few places that cling to capital punishment. There will always be monsters. I won’t argue that murder isn’t justified, but it also isn’t a “solution” in the strictest sense. Fear is what you’re talking about and it is a fickle master.

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                  Nope. Torture isn’t a deterrent, it’s a sadistic indulgence.

                  If Miller ever faces people’s justice, it should be with due process, and if he’s found guilty, the outcome should be fast, cheap and irreversible.

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              I like the way you think.

              I suggest coal mines though. Chances of black lung are much higher, and I’ve heard it’s an awful way to die.