You seem to think I’m trying to justify the Tiananmen Square when I’m just putting one particular incident in perspective to how ICE usually acts. Your gross oversimplifcations seem to want to act like whataboutism to how much worse the Tiananmen Square by portraying it into a caricature of “a massive student protest into a slurry that they pushed into the sewers”.
It got pretty bad, a lot worse than any particular ICE incident up to date, but in a lot of ways it was served to the people just like ICE is being served up. People in the US should really inform themselves better with nuance, because the nuance is that it’s far closer to how ICE is acting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Military_action
This is only a year into Trump’s second term and it’s already this bad. Just look at how long it took Hitler. I’m one of the people that follow several China youtubers, who supports how they can be an outlet for criticism that could not be made any other way in China, but I’ve gotta say, it has been revealing how much they are willing to ignore what is happening in the US and how illegal the operation against Venezuela was to the point that I now ask how much their bias is influencing them taking about outliers as if they were representative of the whole. The standard you compare against matters.
There were tanks that mowed down people in Tiananmen Square Massacre, but in the infamous particular photo that made Tank Man famous, it really does characterize the restraint of that particular commander and/or driver from their shame, specially because others in the same massacre didn’t. It’s used to illustrate what difference one instance of opposition can make, but it’s also inherently only possible because that tank chose not to make that guy an statistic. The thing is, you are much more likely to get someone in the military to doubt themselves when facing its from an army that made up of the general geographic group of your peers than you are from one specially made to include the most racist, narcissistic, and power-tripping members of it. That’s why soldiers get a lot of the post traumatic stress disorder than some of these assholes never will (and neither do I think Jonathan Ross was suffering from it).
You seem to think I’m trying to justify the Tiananmen Square
I did no such thing. I was just pointing out that the “restraint” by the tank drivers the following day is not at all representative of the actual massacre
You seem to think I’m trying to justify the Tiananmen Square when I’m just putting one particular incident in perspective to how ICE usually acts. Your gross oversimplifcations seem to want to act like whataboutism to how much worse the Tiananmen Square by portraying it into a caricature of “a massive student protest into a slurry that they pushed into the sewers”.
It got pretty bad, a lot worse than any particular ICE incident up to date, but in a lot of ways it was served to the people just like ICE is being served up. People in the US should really inform themselves better with nuance, because the nuance is that it’s far closer to how ICE is acting: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Military_action
This is only a year into Trump’s second term and it’s already this bad. Just look at how long it took Hitler. I’m one of the people that follow several China youtubers, who supports how they can be an outlet for criticism that could not be made any other way in China, but I’ve gotta say, it has been revealing how much they are willing to ignore what is happening in the US and how illegal the operation against Venezuela was to the point that I now ask how much their bias is influencing them taking about outliers as if they were representative of the whole. The standard you compare against matters.
There were tanks that mowed down people in Tiananmen Square Massacre, but in the infamous particular photo that made Tank Man famous, it really does characterize the restraint of that particular commander and/or driver from their shame, specially because others in the same massacre didn’t. It’s used to illustrate what difference one instance of opposition can make, but it’s also inherently only possible because that tank chose not to make that guy an statistic. The thing is, you are much more likely to get someone in the military to doubt themselves when facing its from an army that made up of the general geographic group of your peers than you are from one specially made to include the most racist, narcissistic, and power-tripping members of it. That’s why soldiers get a lot of the post traumatic stress disorder than some of these assholes never will (and neither do I think Jonathan Ross was suffering from it).
I did no such thing. I was just pointing out that the “restraint” by the tank drivers the following day is not at all representative of the actual massacre