Most Americans believe that it’s a “problem” that Republicans are transphobic.
A new YouGov poll asked Americans whether they thought that certain issues were a “problem” for either party. 44% said that transphobia was “a major problem” among Republicans, and another 24% said they thought it was “a minor problem.” Only 32% of respondents said it wasn’t a problem.
Transphobia was the second most likely issue to be labeled a problem by respondents, after “hostility toward immigrants.” “Tolerance of political violence,” “conspiracy thinking,” “white supremacy,” “homophobia,” and “fascism” followed closely behind.
Oddly, 40% of respondents said that “transgender ideology” was “a major problem” for Republicans, and another 20% said it was “a minor problem.” 41% said that they didn’t think it was a problem at all for Republicans.
Well, “Americans” are right about that.
Fuck, I barely hear anything from Democrats or the left about trans except to A) acknowledge they exist and B) they have that right to exist.
Nearly every conversation about trans seems to be something initiated by the crazy, unhinged out of touch right wing. Same thing when it comes to things like furries and supposed litter boxes in schools…
It seems they moved on to feverishly thinking about trans nearly 24/7 now that gay marriage is no longer as politically divisive as it once appeared…they keep on trying to cast everyone else as being weird with dumb phrases like “what is a woman? can you define what a woman even is?” and other such tripe, trying to paint Democrats as being out of touch.
They have Trans Derangement Syndrome. Most of them have never actually interacted with a trans person in their lives, but they’re fucking obsessed.
Seriously! My wife and I are both very Pornographic when naked. We touch and lick each other’s genitals frequently.
I’ve never brought any of this up to anyone at work. They don’t know which way my penis curls or which of my balls may be larger than the other.
One thing I often never talk about with anyone at all ever is the fact that both my wife and I pee and poop from our genitals. We don’t discuss or find it necessary to explain the size of our genitals to anyone or how big oir poop is or how far we can shoot our pee. None of this is public information.
Just imagine knowing if I shave my crotch or not. And if I did shave my crotch, what would you do differently with your life? Wouldn’t you have to move states? How do your genitals affect your Life? How do other’s genitals affect your life.
conservatives are notorious for under reporting prejudice in surveys and also not responding to surveys
even if this article is right, Republicans still use anti-trans rhetoric and anti-trans policy to appeal to ignorant uneducated males of low socioeconomic status, and it works…
if you go far enough down on the totem pole of socioeconomic status and education, you find people who genuinely think that Democrats are trying to give all the money to the elites and don’t understand that proposals for trickle down economics mean they, the lower class people, are going to get fucked. Because so many of these low education and low intelligence people can only vote emotionally, because they actually can’t understand the economic issues, they get tricked by conservatives every time with emotional ploys about trans people and other bullshit…
Because if you’re some tractor driver who went to Bob Jones university and can’t understand things like monetary supply and federal interest rates and crowding out of private investment by government bonds and real prices and the problems of the CPI, you still may understand the myths of the Bible and that trans people “don’t seem quite right” and you may laugh at “trans-insanity” insults and other things enough to connect with super rich people out to fuck you as hard as your ignorant brain will allow. And so if you’re that type, you’re going to vote Republican and then 2 years later complain about how it’s unfair you’re losing the farm and tractor.
It’s not about how people rationally feel, this is about rhetorical mendacious trickery to confuse and dupe the stupid plus rage-bait wedge issues so that enough poor people vote with the rich so that both the lower and middle classes get fucked.
Do Republicants spend any of their waking hours not fretting and obsessing over the genitalia of strangers?
I feel that conservatives catch so much flak about all the child fucking that they think we would judge them for their non-destructive sexual interests. And that drives them to act out against things the pique their interests. Like, it’s okay… no one cares. Except about the whole child fucking thing… stop doing that.
and others. get your own concerns and lives you sad, weird, boring fuckers. and by god, the dumbest mother fuckers who can believe in magic sky men and trickle down economics shouldn’t have their greasy fingers anywhere near the controls of the ship I’m on
EVERYONE is too obsessed with trans folks on both sides. There aren’t enough people in that bucket to have an ideology against OR build a political identity around. We got bigger fish to fry no matter what side of the aisle you’re on. It sounds crass even to say and it doesn’t feel like it’s the case on Lemmy, but it’s true. Less than 3 of 100 people.
Amen.
I hate how trans people have become a hate football for the left and the right to lob at each other. It is also utterly irrelevant to the broad issues in our society. It’s just moral grandstanding for the vast majority of people and used as a moral purity test for either side. YOU ARE EITHER FOR TRANS PEOPLE OR AGAINST THEM. No, I am not for or against them anymore than I’m for or against anyone else of any minority, gender, race, or sexuality.
If we really want to make their lives better… well shut up about them and let them get stable jobs and housing. Fix the massive economic problems affecting 90% of the population. Something literally everyone needs and that’s been hoovered up by the top 10% rich assholes who think nobody who isn’t already rich should ever get a chance at having.
Ironically it’s these same 10% who have made trans people the ‘social issue’ of our day. To distract us while they hoover up even more of the economy for themselves. Rich liberals and rich conservatives alike.
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You have a bad read here. It isn’t you are either for trans people or against them… rather, it’s you are either against trans people or against being against them.
No one is saying trans people need special treatment, just equal treatment. Sadly, the status quo isn’t trans people being treated equally. “Shutting up about it” means you aren’t against being against trans people. That people being treated as less than is fine in your eyes. It’s not a social issue of the day, it’s equality for human beings… I am sorry if that offends you.
I’m not offended. I just find it ironic that will I have supported LGBT right my entire life all the sudden I am anti-lgbt in the eyes of crazy extremists who have turned this into a grandstanding issue that has little to do with transpeople, and is all about egostical nutbags who think this is a battle of ‘good vs evil’.
I’m sick of being around people to revel in foaming at the mouth anger over these issues, who want to go around accusing everyone of being ‘evil’ or ‘good’ on an issue that the vast majority of people do not care about and has zero impact on their lives. Just like you trying to morally condemn me here, for not being on ‘your side’. When I am, but you are so blinded by your righteousness you fail to see that.
because you dont’ care about lgbt people, you just care about using them to faff your own moralizing ego off about. I have worked in theatre and other community orgs, and i’ve had a lot of experience with lgbt people.
and most of them want you to leave them the fuck alone and stop using them as a political prop. just like your average working-class latino person doesn’t give a shit about being ‘latinx’, and yet a bunch of self important rich douchebags insist that latino is ‘problematic’. but your average latino person would like better economic opportunities for themselves and their kids.
I remember being here before 20 years ago about gay marriage. I was fully in support of it, but because I didn’t take some crazy position about it being a constitutional amendment, many moralizing nutbags at my college told me I was a homophobic asshole. My position was that the states will sort it out over time, and I was 100% right.
Trans rights and issue will sort themselves out and you’ll move on to another issue to moralize about.
I think your heart is in the right place but the practice isn’t. People award “stunning and brave” points just for being trans without further effort. Consider Elon’s daughter. She has done exactly nothing but people fawn over Vivian. It’s Caitlyn Jenner all over again except I feel like Bruce Jenner had negative karma that got erased instead of just getting benefit of the doubt.
I’m under no delusions about how difficult it is to be a trans person, I have ~5 friends who are trans and it doesn’t look easy. They are not in any context getting equal treatment though. They either get treated like something less than or something greater than just for the fact of being trans.
Functionally trans people are just people and that’s the whole point: they are a vast–and equivalent–minority being made a token group by everybody.
i live in boston area. you are totally correct, at least where i live… there is this movement and rich white liberal douchebags who want to turn every trans person into a martyr. every community group puts out calls to recruit trans folks because they want to prop them up and brag about how ‘inclusive’ they are, and what greater prize is there than a trans person, the most marginalized! It’s weird and fetishistic. Most of the people pushing this mindset are straight white college-educated people. A lot of trans people have their own groups, doing their own sports leagues, etc, and glad for it. They don’t wnat to be associated with the crazy fetishistic douches who want to fawn over them and ask them what their pronouns are every 5 minutes.
It’s just the new version of ‘i have a gay/black friend’ nonsense that went around a couple of decades ago.
I’ve known enough trans people in my life to know they are just people. I worked in theater and have been activity involved in community groups. Some of them are great, some of them are horrible human beings. Some of them are lovey dovey hippies, others are hate filled violent monsters and sexual predators. But in ignorant rich white liberal person land, trans people aren’t people, they are props to virtue signal to each other and lecture each other about ‘ignorance’.
Only 32% of respondents said it wasn’t a problem.
I’m getting so sick of seeing that same number in every “Do you hate thy neighbor?”-type of survey
That’s my go to response with anyone saying “you aren’t conservative/republican/christian/religious” to me. No, sorry, I have better things to do than hate people I don’t know.
There just aren’t that many trans people compared to how often conservatives make a big issue of them. And the number of times that a trans person has actually caused a tangible problem for other people in a way that is related to their being trans is even more rare. Not that it doesn’t happen, but it might as well be a unicorn.
That’s an easy way to tell for sure that they are using the issue as a distraction.
It’s not really a distraction, IMO. The enforcement of gender norms is kind of essential for conservative ideology. The idea that someone can transgress or opt-out from the enforcement of their rules is anathema to them.
If people assigned female at birth can become male and vice-versa, then all of the biological essentialism they believe in, that women are one way and men another due to their inherent characteristics, is proven false. It’s an important part of their ideology and without it a lot of other enforced heirarchies they care about inherently fall apart.
Sadly, a lot of the left is really naive to just how fucking evil these kinds of people are.
They worked hard to craft the narrative around trans people as the new sub-human scourge trying to destroy our nation etc. It was deliberate from the start, they picked a group that has low representation and low population, whom average people don’t understand or connect with.
You don’t fix this kind of thing with education, outreach and lecturing. You fix this with regime change. All of the transphobic chuds and all of the terfs have the attention-spans and emotional consistency of toddlers, that’s why they were vulnerable to the narrative to begin with. If we had new leadership who, no matter what ideology they represented, said “trans people ain’t a big deal and we ain’t going after them” you would see vast waves of people lose interest and start looking for the next target to hate and scapegoat.
I dunno. Personally, I think both can be true. Project 2025, for example, was published in 2023 and went largely under the radar for months, likely making the rounds at CPAC. It wasn’t until discovered a year later that the GOP was forced to go into damage control. It’s obvious no one was supposed to know about it. So, yeah, all that transphobic hate they spew is no doubt genuine but it’s probably hiding something more sinister as well.
The sinister part is control. They discovered long ago that giving people something to hate can bind them. The people pushing this agenda could give a shit either way about the people they designate as the enemy. It’s why they so easily jump from one to the next. As soon as the current boogeyman isn’t boosting their numbers enough, move on to the next boogeyman. They did this for years while slowly degrading education until people were too stupid they were being handled. It’s structured evil controlling the cultivated stupid.
Thank you for saying this. I’ve come to the same conclusion and try to spread the word here and elsewhere.
Not distraction, scapegoat. Fascism needs an “others” demographic to blame for citizens’ hardships, and they have realized that it’s more effective to have multiple of them so voters can cherry-pick whichever they feel more strongly about.
Straight, cis men cause a hell of a lot more problems statistically than any trans person, yet we don’t see Republicans calling for them to be banned.
I mean, true, but, going by pornhub numbers from Republican areas… oh they see trans people all the time.
I’ve known three trans people in my lifetime. All FTM. All were wonderful men.
That’s a very good point.
Gotta hate someone if you’re a conservative.
Black people. Hispanic people. Immigrants in general (unless they’re white). Gays. Trans. Furries. Doesn’t matter. And they’ll cycle through them too. Come back around a few years later to one they haven’t focused on in a while.
Because they lead pathetic lives that aren’t interesting enough, so they have to force themselves on other’s lives.
Truly, they are wastes of oxygen.
Conservative mindset is that everything is in a hierarchy, the hierarchy is a Good and Natural thing to exist, and therefore even if you’re not at the top, there Must be someone beneath you. And then trying to make their lives better puts the wrong people in the hierarchy, so they must be stopped. It’s miserably sad I assume.
You don’t need to assume. It’s pretty obvious how pathetic it is even from the outside.
Its one of the smallest group of people they can demonize. They wouldn’t want a large group that might demonize them. They’ve got that now too but it wasn’t what they wanted.
I figure most of them will never cross paths with anyone LGBTQ+, and the rest are too dumb to realise that their best friend is.
their best friend isthey are
I have a trans younger sister and one of my brothers is dating a trans woman. My dad is pretty MAGA and I have to hear about my sister “deciding they were trans” after going to therapy at every family get together. Yes, they are definitely way too obsessed.
Ask him when he decided to be cis/straight.
just curious, what’s that going to do?
Puts him on the defensive about his own life. Seems rude but could be worse.
I felt one huge let down when a parent told me that they voted for Trump because of trans athletes in school sports.
That was when I knew that they had another person in their life other than my other parent. They are still married. And this outside person is influencing one of them. I had suspected it, but now I see the influence this person has over my parent is scary.
Where exactly does any of the sourced material show that the opinion “Republicans are too obsessed with trans people” is being held at all, much less among what proportion? How is “too obsessed” even defined?
That headline is infested with weasels.
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Pride month, June, when schools are out for summer, is when your nephew’s middle school was quizzed about LGBT sexuality? And that’s a totally real thing that happened without getting any coverage from a right wing outrage farm?
Bullshit.
Deny it all you want. I was in the school and saw it with my own eyes. every hall was plastered with the 50+ pride flags and when I asked him about it that’s what he said. It’s part of the curriculum for them to know the differences in pride flags now.
I think it would make sense in queer studies class in college. But why a middle school should be be expected to now the difference btween BDSM and allosexuality and their flags, i have no clue. But that is the werido world we live in now. Kid doesn’t even have an interest in girls yet and he’s expected to know these things so he doesn’t oppress anyone or something.
This did not happen. No middle school is teaching children about BDSM. Blatant lies.
Ironically, you just proved the article’s point.
That’s weird. I voted Democrat my entire life. Didn’t know I was a republican.
Guess I should start voting for Republicans now? I suppose you also assume I hate transpeople too?
i suppose my ignorance of allosexuality is also very harmful and offensive.
You complain about BDSM. Okay. Where were you when 50 Shades of Grey dropped?
I participant in BDSM. I knew about it a decade before 50 Shades of Grey. Thanks.
I don’t think 12 year olds should be talking about BDSM it in a 6th grade health class. they should be talking about biology, not queer theory. Sexuality is a private matter that people should figure out for themselves, they shouldn’t be ‘educated’ about it by a public school. They have plenty of time to learn queer theory in college. But for some reason ‘progressive’ schools insist on pushing college-level theoretical discourse on pubescent children, because the educations at these schools are in a weird moral arms race to be the most ‘woke’. and apparently LGBT is now no longer woke, we need to have all 50 ‘alt’ gender/sexualitty identifiers taught to 12 year olds, lest they be oppressed by not knowing someone is identifies as ‘trigender’ or ‘lithromantic’. Hell, about 75% of the ‘alt’ pride flags collapse in on themselves given any thought, as they just splitting hairs.
They also shouldn’t be studying quantum mechanics either, because they haven’t even taken Algebra 1 yet. This is the same school, btw that decided to cancel advanced math classes in 8th grade because it was ‘oppressive’ to minority students who were underrepresented in those classes. That decision caused so much outrage they had to walk it back. but that took a full year, screwing many kids out of advanced classes.
Call me a facist I guess, but I don’t think kids should the victims of political ideologies being shoved down their throats by activists/extremists. I don’t think my nephews should be forced to pray to God in school either. They should just be there to learn basic skills and basic facts. They should be taught LGBT people exist, and that’s it. They shoud be taught about major world religions too. But They should not be taught what to think about them or get caught up in other people’s sexuality/gender debates about the difference between all 50 pride flags, just also doesn’t need to know about the 50+ orders of the Catholic church and their missions/doctrines. (he can learn about that if he studies theology in college). The standard LGBT flag is enough for a 12 year old.
You’ve given is no evidence, spewed false accusations and ad hominems. The fact you so quickly brushed 50 Shades of Grey aside - an erotic fanfic turned film that had a theatrical fucking release - so quickly just you can whine about trans people again says more about you than me.
You didn’t read a word I wrote.
Sorry, unless I misunderstood and you think 50 shades of gray should be part of 6th grade english? Because it was such a deep and profound novel… and not straight up pornography.
Hey, I’m not going to deny that trans and LGB+ rights haven’t garnered more attention lately.
But you said “for the past 3 years”.
I’m sorry…when did the first bathroom bills gain popularity? Was it 2016ish? I feel like it was 2016ish.
Republicans have ALWAYS been obsessed with the genitalia of strangers.
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