The US military doesn’t need to step foot in Venezuela in order to cause unimaginable death and destruction. This is by no means a boast. People need to understand the implications of a deranged and senile narcissist having access to the most powerful armed forces the planet has ever known. That is not hyperbole.
The US also cannot steal the oil remotely… they’ll need to invade if they plan to take more than the tankers at sea
Having said that, this absurd, ill conceived plan, is more intended to hide the fact trump is a pedophile a likely a child sex trafficker, than anything concrete about taking oil
The US can bomb Venezuela into submission if there are truly no guard rails in place like right now. I do not put it past trump to nuke the Capitol to get an immediate surrender consequences be damned. He seems like he really wants to push that big red button.
Agreed… but again, how are you going to steal the oil in a radiated, toxic wasteland?
The infrastructure for the oil industry in Venezuela is falling apart (turned out to be a saving grace now), you can bomb the crap out of the rest of the country but, at the very least, Venezuelans will destroy whatever little infra is left.
With the Orange Pedo being 79, he won’t see a drop of oil going down that way
Because from a bomb it’s not really radioactive that long from my understanding. Less than 2 years until an area is habitable again, but it would need to be monitored. Add to that the distance between the capital and where the oil reserves are is a few hundred km. Bomb the capital, get the surrender, steal the reserves. No need to send your people where the radiation is.
I don’t play a lot of video games that involve that. But I did work on nuclear reactors in the Navy. To be fair that was a long time ago so I may not remember the specifics.
And to be clear I don’t condone the actions (I think it’s fucking abominable). They just don’t seem to be far fetched from my armchair.
Oh shit EOOW or xxN? And yeah you’re right modern nukes don’t actually leave a ton of radiation long term. People think nukes are dirty bombs not understanding the difference.
No superpower has ever beaten guerrilla tactics. Just like Vietnam, if lots of soldiers are coming home in body bags for a war people don’t see the benefit to them for, the pressure to stop will mount. It’s unfortunate that it will kill so many people before it gets to that point.
Even more sad is that it seems like most of the oil companies aren’t interested in Venezuela as the oil price is too low to take on the risk. The risk of bombs to their infrastructure after costly installations. Risk their investment is removed as soon as trump is gone.
In Iraq we had no goal. Can’t complete an objective when there is no objective. Same with Afghanistan.
Vietnam we lost the objective because literally everyone knew the objective wasn’t obtainable, yet we stayed there.
In Venezuella there’s a clear objective. Steal all the oil. Of all the stupid wars we’ve been involved with, this one is at least honest. We’re here for your oil, and we’ll kill you with the biggest military if you step in our way.
I don’t agree with the objectives. I don’t agree with the war. But I will say this seems pretty easy for us. Fucking over countries long term future, sowing political chaos, and stealing oil are like our cornerstones.
I am saying it’s not so easy to organize when 10+ times as large. That is all, I don’t want any wars or anyone killed. This whole thing is some insane nightmare.
You guys are great a making excuses… as if you could not just protest in whatever town/city you live in
We get it, you are afraid and don’t want to sacrifice an hour of TV to save democracy because you are white and think they won’t come for you… keep watching TV and be happy
I’m in the south in a not-super-large area and there have been protests near me every single day for a week or two at least. Everyone honking in support, including a big-ass ugly truck. I find it encouraging.
While we are at it. Since you are such an expert you should come to the US and organize a protest across the entirety of the country. A tough guy like you, it should be easy.
Ok imagine I am an Afghan and your country destroyed whatever little we had because of <reasons> yet you did not bother to even lift a sign
Or imagine I am Iranian, and your country funded Saddam’s war that lasted 10 years did not leave any family unscathed… yet you did not lift a sign
Or I am Iraqi and you came under the excuse of a lie, killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of civilians… and the 5 people that were finally held to account for literally driving around killing civilians were pardoned by your Orange pedophile president which you chose to elect for a second round
Maybe I am Vietnamese, or Yemeni or Palestinian or <insert any country from 3/4 of the world> and the story would be the same… yet you (and by you I mean the American people in general), have done FUCK ALL to even attempt to curve the damage you do in the world.
So now that you are on the shitty end of the stick, you expect anyone from the rest of the world to really say “no, I get it, they can’t even protests because… their country is big, they have to work, the last season of show X is out” ???
Let me ask you something… did you give a single flying fuck about the 113 people your president bombed under the pretext they were running drugs without showing any evidence? Maybe I care for you as much as you cared for them
Let him step foot in Venezuela… they’ll show all Muricans how protests are done
The US military doesn’t need to step foot in Venezuela in order to cause unimaginable death and destruction. This is by no means a boast. People need to understand the implications of a deranged and senile narcissist having access to the most powerful armed forces the planet has ever known. That is not hyperbole.
The US also cannot steal the oil remotely… they’ll need to invade if they plan to take more than the tankers at sea
Having said that, this absurd, ill conceived plan, is more intended to hide the fact trump is a pedophile a likely a child sex trafficker, than anything concrete about taking oil
The US can bomb Venezuela into submission if there are truly no guard rails in place like right now. I do not put it past trump to nuke the Capitol to get an immediate surrender consequences be damned. He seems like he really wants to push that big red button.
Agreed… but again, how are you going to steal the oil in a radiated, toxic wasteland?
The infrastructure for the oil industry in Venezuela is falling apart (turned out to be a saving grace now), you can bomb the crap out of the rest of the country but, at the very least, Venezuelans will destroy whatever little infra is left.
With the Orange Pedo being 79, he won’t see a drop of oil going down that way
Because from a bomb it’s not really radioactive that long from my understanding. Less than 2 years until an area is habitable again, but it would need to be monitored. Add to that the distance between the capital and where the oil reserves are is a few hundred km. Bomb the capital, get the surrender, steal the reserves. No need to send your people where the radiation is.
Maybe stop playing so many videogames.
I don’t play a lot of video games that involve that. But I did work on nuclear reactors in the Navy. To be fair that was a long time ago so I may not remember the specifics.
And to be clear I don’t condone the actions (I think it’s fucking abominable). They just don’t seem to be far fetched from my armchair.
Oh shit EOOW or xxN? And yeah you’re right modern nukes don’t actually leave a ton of radiation long term. People think nukes are dirty bombs not understanding the difference.
America is over 10 times as large as Venezuela. The comparison is like a basketball verses a pebble.
No superpower has ever beaten guerrilla tactics. Just like Vietnam, if lots of soldiers are coming home in body bags for a war people don’t see the benefit to them for, the pressure to stop will mount. It’s unfortunate that it will kill so many people before it gets to that point.
Even more sad is that it seems like most of the oil companies aren’t interested in Venezuela as the oil price is too low to take on the risk. The risk of bombs to their infrastructure after costly installations. Risk their investment is removed as soon as trump is gone.
That’ll explain how the US did so well in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, …
In Iraq we had no goal. Can’t complete an objective when there is no objective. Same with Afghanistan.
Vietnam we lost the objective because literally everyone knew the objective wasn’t obtainable, yet we stayed there.
In Venezuella there’s a clear objective. Steal all the oil. Of all the stupid wars we’ve been involved with, this one is at least honest. We’re here for your oil, and we’ll kill you with the biggest military if you step in our way.
I don’t agree with the objectives. I don’t agree with the war. But I will say this seems pretty easy for us. Fucking over countries long term future, sowing political chaos, and stealing oil are like our cornerstones.
I am saying it’s not so easy to organize when 10+ times as large. That is all, I don’t want any wars or anyone killed. This whole thing is some insane nightmare.
You guys are great a making excuses… as if you could not just protest in whatever town/city you live in
We get it, you are afraid and don’t want to sacrifice an hour of TV to save democracy because you are white and think they won’t come for you… keep watching TV and be happy
I’m in the south in a not-super-large area and there have been protests near me every single day for a week or two at least. Everyone honking in support, including a big-ass ugly truck. I find it encouraging.
While we are at it. Since you are such an expert you should come to the US and organize a protest across the entirety of the country. A tough guy like you, it should be easy.
yes, you should outsource that labour as well
OK tough guy revolutionary. Your e-peen is so large.
Ad hominems, thank you for your support. Maybe you can leave your armchair one of these days.
I am already moving more than you are to protect MY OWN country…
Are you always such a dick?
No, only about things that matter
Could have fooled me.
Ok imagine I am an Afghan and your country destroyed whatever little we had because of <reasons> yet you did not bother to even lift a sign
Or imagine I am Iranian, and your country funded Saddam’s war that lasted 10 years did not leave any family unscathed… yet you did not lift a sign
Or I am Iraqi and you came under the excuse of a lie, killed HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of civilians… and the 5 people that were finally held to account for literally driving around killing civilians were pardoned by your Orange pedophile president which you chose to elect for a second round
Maybe I am Vietnamese, or Yemeni or Palestinian or <insert any country from 3/4 of the world> and the story would be the same… yet you (and by you I mean the American people in general), have done FUCK ALL to even attempt to curve the damage you do in the world.
So now that you are on the shitty end of the stick, you expect anyone from the rest of the world to really say “no, I get it, they can’t even protests because… their country is big, they have to work, the last season of show X is out” ???
Let me ask you something… did you give a single flying fuck about the 113 people your president bombed under the pretext they were running drugs without showing any evidence? Maybe I care for you as much as you cared for them