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    24 hours ago

    If they’re already in the Degradation stage of the Enshitification process they’re fucked.

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      22 hours ago

      Yep.

      It would be like if Uber started ripping people off before they even broke the cab union contracts with cities.

      They don’t have a product people even want yet.

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        A TON of people love ChatGPT. I’m with you, but it’s foolish to not acknowledge the reality that it’s popular.

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            The German saying which is attributed to religion is

            1000 Fliegen fressen Scheiße. 1000 Fliegen können sich nicht irren.

            Now that said it doesn’t change the reality of the situation. The equally important saying is “When in Rome…”

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          Just cause tonnes of folks love ChatGPT doesn’t mean that it’s viable though, plenty of people love products that were produced by now debunked corporations or developers, just look at Troika games Arcanum and Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines are loved by their communities but the studio has been bunk for about 20 years now. If they can’t break even as a minimum they will eventually collapse and be sold for parts.

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          Yeah it’s a neat little novelty. But the vast majority of people aren’t going to pay anything for a chatbot. Bribing businesses to use it won’t pull much in either. It’ll never be a sustainable source of revenue.

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            Governments and trade associations and other groups do already and or will pay for chatbots.

            The govt connected contractors already have the newest versions, added to the mercenary outfits of mechanized troll divisions. To ratfuck public opinion.

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              Does that equate to the hundreds of billions a year revenue they’ll need to even start to not look like a joke. Their spending cycle would never end as they’ll never be able to build at the pace of hardware changes.

              And that’s assuming the whole ai industry absolutely takes off rather than crash and burn

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                Yeah as a business it’s hard to see how they become profitable enough, they are spending money like outsourcing tens of millions of jobs just in the US is around the corner, and it’s not. The hype is incredible, those that do outsource to it will have to backtrack or have inferior business operations.

                Unfortunately they are politically connected to say the least and when the bubble pops they will directly bail outs of the companies, then the Fed will do all sorts of monetary easing and make interest rates zero or even negative. The fed has moved heaven and earth to prevent the rich from losing money twice now, and shamefully not only did both parties support it but neither even turned against it after the fact. Never even made hay out of the companies that got billions in ppp “loans,” fired workers, then got those loans forgiven anyway. While the small business that got tens of thousands and kept employees on were forced to repay.

                Both parties see their purpose as extracting money from the federal government for their donors. Neither party will balk enough to prevent the bail outs this third time around. This administration is taking every excuse to borrow money, they will max out the credit card before they get removed.

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        Anecdotal, but pretty much all my friends use ChatGPT. So there is definitely some demand, but I doubt any of them would pay for it. They also all realize more and more that it’s a bullshit machine that cannot be trusted.

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          yup, “ask chatgpt” has seeped its way into the minds of all people around me.

          i think the problem with ai is how they can’t make money off of it, they seem to have pushed it to people just fine.

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          I have a number of friends and family members who pay for ChatGPT, and I’ve been shocked to watch their ability to form an original thought shrivel up.

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            Good point. While I knew that this iteration of “AI” would not revolutionise jobs or creative work, it is so scary how society just accepted that everyone would lose their job and everything else. We could just… Not do that. Or at least do it in a better system.

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          I get that. And I am even perfectly willing to believe that it has some genuine utility for a lot of people, but something that people would use for free is a far cry from something that is going to recover a trillion dollars worth of investment and infrastructure.

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      don’t understand this because look at Google. from the get go this always seemed like the 100 point layup use case.

      Real innovation and progress takes experimental evidence, which even with infinite IQ is impossible to just gleam.