• danc4498@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    Maybe if he says it enough times they’ll leave. Or maybe he should enforce the law in his state.

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      22 hours ago

      he knows trump wants to declare martial law. and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call. everyone’s waiting for someone to step up and show some leadership against fascism, and if it ever happens, it’s definitely not going to be someone in public office

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        21 hours ago

        and he knows trump could have him and his entire family murdered with one phone call.

        Yes, [REDACTED] brought up the Hortman assassination a propos of nothing on social media, and within 12 hours, Walz dropped out of the governor’s race quite unexpectedly. That was my first thought, that the regime has made its threat clear to him.

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          to make it look like there’s someone in charge who gives a rat’s ass about you. that’s usually fine–but not when a fascist con man rapist sack of shit is president. it doesn’t matter how many innocent citizens are murdered–walz will do nothing beyond complaining about it .

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        We’re kinda at the do nothing and be murdered or do something and then maybe get killed for it stage.

        Starting to seem like trying is the better option

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            19 hours ago

            If we really honestly can’t figure out a better plan than to get our little glocks and go plink at em, then okay. But we’d have to be a whole lot dumber than I think we are.

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              I’m all ears on how your going to reason with might makes right peole to give up their power

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                Um, elections and proper application of the law.

                Everyone here is so up their own butt about how it’s all corrupt and everything’s over man (after shitting on Harris for five months straight) but that’s the right way to do it.

                If you just need to murder some brownshirts and want to take the consequences, then that’s always an option. It’s just not the best option. It’s not even a good option.

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                  after shitting on Harris for five months straight

                  For Christ sake shut the fuck up about Harris already. People are dying, democrats don’t do jack shit unless it is to help THE MURDERERS and y’all are still butting in everywhere to throw a tantrum.

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                  The elections they’re talking about canceling and the rule of law that they are completely ignoring.

                  So while you’re waiting for that to work the rest of us need to figure out how to actually get something done.

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                  Um, how many more need to get murdered by the government before you come up with something even the slightest bit more effective than “sit on our asses and keep getting murdered”?

                  We’re long past the third box of liberty, which (barring whatever incredible plan you’re working on) leaves us with either the fourth box, or just accept people being murdered.

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              If the money is corrupting all players and steering the agenda, why not go after it? When we strike directly at agents of force, then we are directly attacking family and friends of a multitude of others, including of folks that may be trying to reconcile things. It will rile up his base into murder frenzy. Many undecided (dummies) will get swept up in the frenzy, because they’ll defer thinking to others around them. The rabid base have few relationships with their oligarch masters.

              Lobotomize their think tanks.

              Cut out the tongues of their media propagandists.

              Bring any and all levels of direct action against the class that is causing this.

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          I mean on the other hand, Trump kind of does want violent resistance to spring up so provide the Reichstag burning he’s been waiting for to amplify the cracking down. I mean, they kinda already had the Charlie Kirk shooting, and he kind of already can institute martial law whenever (it’s not constitutional but neither has been a single thing he’s done lately), and martial law won’t really lead to anything on its own anyway… I dunno, let’s keep resisting in effective ways. One idea is to make ICE’s life hell so they loathe their jobs and go home.

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        These people literally ran for office specifically to represent the people. They shouldn’t be shy about putting things on the line

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      Unfortunately, Democrats have done nothing to build any forces loyal to democracy. They supported racist and violent cops that are loyal to Republicans, and those cops almost certainly won’t follow orders to arrest ICE agents. If anything they’re just going to collaborate, like they already have despite it technically being illegal. National Guard might be better, maybe, but they’re probably just going to help ICE suppress the protestors.

      Who would he call upon to enforce the law?

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        The big myth that nobody analyzes nor tries to dispel in politics is that police (of any type) operate under democratic control.

        They never have, and until qualified immunity is eliminated, they never will.

        Elected officials (outside of the president…or hey, wait a second, couldn’t Walz pardon himself for state crimes?!) do not have such an immunity. So, the “orders” that the elected officials give police are basically suggestions, and that is how they receive and follow (or don’t follow) them.

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          Police in US is pretty much an organized crime group. If a politician threatens their status they all will simply go on strike. Reminds of when de Blasio supported protests against police killings and every cop turned his back on him during his speech.

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      22 hours ago

      He needs to click his heels three times first. That’s why it’s not working.

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      19 hours ago

      Wonder if it would work to declare a state of emergency and mobilize the MN national guard to safeguard civilians? If they are already deployed can the president deploy them?

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      21 hours ago

      Got downvoted for claiming all he and other democrats were going to do was angrily Tweet.

      They angrily Tweeted and made phone calls.

      How surprising.