• givesomefucks@lemmy.world
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    They’re scared shitless that Minnesotans will realize they can legally carry rifles (they need a handgun permit tho) and ICE only has pistols

    They’re already out numbered 10-1 everytime they get out of their trucks.

    CCWs don’t help, because they’re not a visual deterrent and the act of drawing would get you shot.

    But a big fuck off rifle will make them get back in the truck. America has a dark history, so fuck it let’s co-opt it.

    Let’s see how the racists feel when they get followed everywhere by a group of people with rifles.

    I have a feeling bare minimum they won’t be so quick to escalate to violence.

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      That’s exactly what they’re looking for to justify escalation. “Look the protestors have rifles now, we need assault rifles.” The only alternative is to show up with enough people that they don’t have the bullets to stop them. Otherwise you’re playing into their hands.

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        The US military is great at fighting other militaries. It’s terrible at fighting resistance movements. It’s why it lost in Iraq and Afghanistan.

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          And Vietnam, and south America, it’s why the Russians can’t take Ukraine. When the citizens are willing to be part of the war effort you cannot stop an insurgency without removing that will to fight, or killing every single person.

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          Yeah, but against people with portable ATGMs, like Javelins or NLAWs. Anything else is not going to make a dent in an Abrams tank.

          Also, they’d be much more likely to send in IFVs, like Bradleys. They’re much “better” equipped to deal with “people”.

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          An unprotected tank in a city is an easy target. Approach from the side or rear and get any large, hard object in the treads, and it’ll throw the track and be effectively immobilized.

          Any tank driver will avoid driving over obstacles for this reason. It’s not a monster truck, so even a couple cars forming a barricade with either block them out, or make them go around, perhaps onto a street of your choosing.

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            Its worth looking into chemical reactions. Keep in mind a bomb is anything that holds pressure until it suddenly doesnt. With a little ingenuity you can make almost anything into a bomb, and there are jo personel defenses and few vehicular defenses against a properly prepared bomb.

            No gun will save you from the government. They will always have more force than you. But if you can force them to come to you, you can control where engagements happen. The geneva convention only applies to governments, the rest of the world is not going to care about you using biological or chemical weapons against your government.

            Get a gasmask, bleach and ammonia mixed make chlorine gas. Leave barrels of gasoline around your property and practice shooting. You can get mercury out of old thermometers and use them to make tilt switches so that when someone steps on something, it activates. Timothy mcveigh (horrible dude, im not glorifying him here) showed how effective fertilizer bombs can be.

            To be clear, im not advocating for any of this, simply listing your options.

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            Gasoline, Diesel, napalm if you can get it, basically all vehicles are susceptible to having their engine compartment lit on fire since even if it doesn’t destroy it outright something important will get cooked. Otherwise pits work great if you can build them, undermining a road could backfire but blowing up a overflow cistern could have a similar effect if needed.

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            Literally just Molotov cocktails lobbed at the engine bay ventilation from an elevated location. It’ll make them overheat and die. And maybe set up some zip lines in advance or something.