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    Trump wasn’t a client, was he? He was a full blown accomplice, judging by the overwhelming amount of times he’s mentioned…

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    Eh, actually trans people ARE mentioned but like, in a creepy ass way talking about how to DO things to them. Like. Its disturbing. No trans person is IMPLICATED in the files however.

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      Came here to say this exact thing. Just goes to show it’s always a liiiiittle worse than you’d expect with these files

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    That’s not true. Trans people are mentioned. Not by name, but rather how to design perfect sex slaves by transitioning people.

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    Right but those thousands of Trump mentions were Epstein himself saying “why won’t Mr. Trump answer my invitations to the island?” and brainstorming with Elon Musk “how can we get Mr. Trump to come visit the island?” /s

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      also if a politican on the left is involed in shit, his voters demand an explanatiom from him and if it’s not good they will drop him and demand a trial. trumpist on the other hand now despreratly try to rationalize child rape …

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      I opened car radio few days ago and fox news was arguing Biden is worse than Epstein because “He let bunch of people in and immigrants’ crimes hurt the kids on a larger scale.”

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      When people says both sides, it is referring to both of them serve capitalistic interests over the general populace. Of course one side is much more blatant to be a fascist than the other.

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        There’s something interesting to note in this comment, but first I’d like to ask you if there’s a country in the world right now you would point to that is doing a better job?

        Edit: Well now. That’s telling.

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      If Bernie was implicated, I think it would break any trust I could ever have for a politician again

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    This is wrong. Epstein had an email discussing MTF porn and noting the lack of FTM porn out there and considers grooming young boys to be transition to become a new product category for him.

    This is not a joke, by the way.

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    To be fair Epstein did talk about forcing transition on young boys and raising them as sex slaves. And he was 100% a chaser which came up many times. But trans people were never mentioned as perpetrators of abuse only as victims.

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      Yup, the “democrats are forcibly transitioning your kids” conspiracy theories that conservatives parrot has 100% been coming from the fact that the billionaires wanted to do exactly that. They wanted to forcibly transition children to keep as sex slaves.

      There are multiple documents in the files confirming this… They even go on to justify it by saying that they’d be doing the children a service, because it would allow them to make more money as prostitutes or porn stars after they’re too old for Epstein’s clients.

      There’s a weird branch of conservatism that is really into forced feminization as a kink. That’s why trans women are vilified, but femboys are somehow okay with many conservatives. To the conservatives who are into forced feminization, the femboy is just playing into that kink, and they can tell themselves that it’s forced. They don’t see it as gay, (which would be wrong, as conservatives hate the evil gays), because it’s forcing someone to be feminine instead. But trans women take it too far for those conservatives, because it removes the “I’m forcing them to do this by being more masculine” power dynamic that they enjoy with forced feminization. With trans women, it’s very clearly something that they’re doing to themselves, not something that is being forced upon them.

      But with the billionaires, that latter part isn’t a problem. They literally could force kids to be trans. So it just plays even harder into the forced feminization kink that so many conservatives have… It’s the natural end stage of the kink for them. Trans girls don’t break their illusion of power, because the power is not an illusion when you’re that rich.

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        Holy shit, you put into words what I’ve been feeling but haven’t quite been able to put my finger on, like something hiding in the periphery even if you try to look at it.

        I’m simultaneously relieved to finally have it out in the open, and disgusted to see it written so plainly. All these people should go Mario Kart with Luigi.

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      Because he’s so insecure he desperately wants to be in the “In” group. And he probably got ghosted because he’s the kind of guy who’d go around bragging how he’s in the Epsteins pedo cabal

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    The truth is Trump and Epstein did have a falling out. It wasn’t because Trump disapproved of what he did. It is because he was in competition with Epstein.

    Trump is a human trafficking chomo who didn’t want Epstein in on his child molesting/blackmail/influence operation.

    Lock him up!

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      Only the rich. Multimillionaires and higher. Anyone under that is basically a victim of the system too

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          Poor pedos don’t blackmail powerful people into getting out of jail, so the justice system is usually enough in those cases.

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            I’m sorry, but that’s naive. There are some pedos that are only in it for themselves, and only present a danger to the children within arms reach, but there are many more who are selling their own children as well as the children of others and are actively involved in trades/sales with other pedos, as well as being involved with and protected by various forms of organized crime in their own areas.

            There are pedos who adopt for the purpose of selling (prostituting) the child, for example, and even more who operate out of group homes. There are also subcategories of pedos: for example, you have pedos that want Alice-in-Wonderland lookalikes and you have sadist pedos that want to be able to punch and cut while they rape. For every adult kink, there is a pedo kink, and more.

            The lone pedo doing it in the home for his own gratification is just the tip of the iceberg, but many more operate in groups and they’d very much like for you to carry on believing that they do not exist. This is trafficking. It happens everywhere. It is not rare.

            What being rich does for pedos like Epstein and Trump, the local group does for the “poor” pedos, but it’s the exact same thing.

            And the justice system doesn’t do jack shit.

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          Pedophiles? Victims or people in need of treatment. Pedocriminals? Perpetrators, and society needs to be protected from them, but still in need of treatment.

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    There’s a huge difference about the way the media is reporting the horrific information uncovered in these files.

    Independent media, who are having to read the files themselves and view the images and the videos, you can just see that they are damaged by that information because it’s so disturbing. And the vast amount of it is so overwhelming. You can see that they’re upset by it.

    But when you watch the mainstream media, the “Reporters” aren’t really directly reading or viewing any of the file information. They’re just getting a summary from somebody else in their organization who’s reading it for them. And so they can report it very disinterested. They’re actually downplaying it. It makes you think they seem more professional, but it’s just because reporters in the mainstream media are not actually looking at all this awful stuff, and if they did, I think they would be reporting it much more accurately as the devastating and horrible thing it really is.

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      Yes. For example, I read in The Guardian (see #6) that Richard Branson was mentioned, but they only really talked about one line of one email and how he did not have anything to do with Epstein’s real activity or knowledge of it, etc.

      Then I saw the full content of the email where Richard Branson was offering Epstein direct advice on how to rehabilitate his public image after finishing his sentence:

      Dear Jeffrey, It was really nice seeing you yesterday. The boys in Watersports can’t stop speaking about it! Any time you’re in the area would love to see you. As long as you bring your harem!

      1. I think if Bill Gates was willing to say that you’ve been a brilliant advisor to him, that you slipped up many years ago by sleeping with a 17 1/2 year old woman and were punished for it, that you’ve more than learnt your lesson and have done nothing that’s against the law since and, yes, as a single man you seem to have a penchant for women. But there’s nothing wrong with that. Anyway something along those lines.

      It’s such a disparity between the reporting and the reality I don’t think it can legitimately be called reporting.

      EDITED to add links and correct myself

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      And it appears the incriminating stuff is all redacted anyway. There is nothing reported yet about actual rapes of underage girls even though that’s what this was all about. Using protecting the girls’ identities and active investigatioins as an excuse they just cut the entire evidence of the rapes out of the material it appears.

      So the media has an easy out, just reporting on who talked to epstein, who went to a party, and nothing of the details of these rapes, even as those details wouldn’t identify anyone to any person that doesn’t already know about it.

      We need an independent monitor to decide what to release or not. If only we could leak the files, news organizations could decide what to redact, I would trust a number of them keeping each other honest far more than the government.

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        Bill Gates asking Epstein for antibiotics he can slip to his wife without her knowing because he got STDs while on the island should really be a bigger story, even from a popculture gossip standpoint.

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          I totally forgot about about that, what was it syphilis? Probably had something to do with his divorce I imagine. Giving your wife underage human trafficking syphilis Seems like a real last straw.

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            syphilis

            Don’t know, but just adding that gonorrhea is also a bacterial STI which can be cured with antibiotics.